Look at me, - eviltoast

I’m the chimney sweep now!

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Chimney sweeps ended because of violent worker organizing and striking. It wasn’t because Capitalists felt bad. Unions and threat of mass worker revolutions have won every concession Capitalists have given.

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      11 months ago

      Unions and strikes exist under capitalism, it’s dishonest to claim they are separate. Nobody implied “capitalists” are somehow noble or generous.

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        11 months ago

        They exist in opposition to the forces of Capitalism. That’s like giving the US government credit for the Civil Rights Movement, completely absurd. It was Capitalism that created child chimney sweeps, and the blood, sweat, and tears of Workers fighting against the Capitalists that ended them.

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          11 months ago

          Well they exist in the system that we have today, so what your statement implies is that our system has already have moved beyond capitalism. Yay us!

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            11 months ago

            No, that’s not what I said. Again, you’re giving credit for the Civil Rights Movement to the US government.

            If a Movement goes against the system itself, you can’t credit the system for conceding as though it was the origin of the Movement.