Gavin Newsom blasts effort to block Trump from California ballot: 'We defeat candidates at the polls' - eviltoast
  • ByteWizard@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Legally, it’s not the same thing.

    1. Trump has not been found guilty of “insurrection.”

    2. No one participating in the events of January 6 was convicted of “insurrection.”

    3. Trump was never accused of “insurrection.”

    4. No one involved in the January 6 events was accused of “insurrection.”

    5. Trump was exonerated in the second impeachment trial, which concerned the events of January 6.

    6. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment does not apply to the President according to settled doctrine.

    • xor@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      in·sur·rec·tion /ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/ noun a violent uprising against an authority or government.

      Seditious Conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof…

      stfu

      • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
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        11 months ago

        SMH. One is an actual action. One is a plot.

        BLM should have been charged with a seditious conspiracy. There is evidende of that.

        They went with conspiracy because the burden is lower.

        So basically the other person is correct and you are wrong. You don’t seem to understand an action vs a plot.

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          11 months ago

          wow you actually managed to bring blm into this… that’s the dumbest shit ive ever heard

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          11 months ago

          "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. " -14th amendment

          notice how it doesn’t say “convicted of”
          … furthermore, the legal definition of “insurrection and rebellion” and “seditious conspiracy” have an almost complete overlap.

          im sorry you have failed to grasp basic logic, but you know what? there’s a lot of youtube videos on logic… you should check them out! it’s a great opportunity.

          i recommend you dig into symbolic logic… pretty abstract but i think it helps intuitively