Should instances defederate with other instances anymore if we can filter instances out on our end? - eviltoast
    • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      defedding pedos make sense but defedding the others you mentioned are a very slippery slope into making an echo chamber

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Sorry, you keep saying “echo chamber” when you wanted to type “usable instance”. Something seems broken with your autocorrect.

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            1 year ago

            Real life is the biggest echo chamber you’ll ever find. Online is one of the most diverse spaces you’ll find. That said there’s nothing to be gained by humoring fascists, ML, or groups only interested in engaging in bad faith. I say this as someone who trends social libertarian and is always up for some Marxism.

            • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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              1 year ago

              I do think real life can be an echo chamber, but if you have a diverse range of people you interact with, it can be not an echo chamber at all. Having multiple friend groups, attending social events, etc can make real life more diverse.

              (Ofc there’s things like living in a first world country making an echo chamber of people that don’t care about third world issues, but that’s beside the point)

              Online is also the same in my opinion.

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                1 year ago

                Yes. But people not acting in good faith don’t deserve my attention or time. No differing or opposing viewpoints are lost.

                You act like not giving them attention is as bad as when they sent the people they disagreed with to the gas chamber or gulags by the millions.

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            1 year ago

            Then yes, we want an echo chamber. Happy? You’re still defending scum, no matter the semantics.

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              No one ever gets radicalized in these cases, hearing the same things from everyone they interact with thinking that everyone or at least most think the same way they do and they need to fix the situation while being encouraged to do so. Never happens.

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                1 year ago

                Step 1: Don’t engage them, no room for their rhetoric.

                You are to fuck off, and take your crypto and your blue line flags with you on the way out.

                • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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                  1 year ago

                  Do you understand my argument?

                  All I’m saying is that defedding from people like “tankies, alt-righters, edge lords” are fine, but because it’s easy to miscategorise people into those categories (intentional or not) you could end up defederating from anyone you don’t agree with, ending up in an echo chamber.

                • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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                  1 year ago

                  sure, you can block me if you don’t agree with my opinions.

                  that would be kinda making an echo chamber for yourself though, so I wouldn’t recommend that.