Pence confirms he took notes on Trump about overturning election - eviltoast

Former Vice President Mike Pence has confirmed that he took notes on his conversations with former President Trump leading up to the Jan. 6 riot, as Trump repeatedly pressured him to reject the results of the 2020 election during the certification in Congress.

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    It is when one legislates their religious convictions onto others who do not share them.

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      Like which ones? I’m not American and I don’t have to inform myself of all the laws that were passed 2016-2020 in a country that isn’t mine

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        marriage equality, for one. he actively advocates for laws banning it, and advocates for laws banning LGBTQ equality in other ways, advocating for laws limiting/eliminating LGBTQ equality, often donating money for the purpose and to politicians who support such measures.

        but if you can’t make the effort to inform yourself of at least the topic under discussion, then don’t expect others to do it for you before jumping into a conversation. that’s just rude.

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              Dude, I seriously want to at least know the names of those laws so I can get a first-hand judgement. Stop evading questions please

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                In case you’re unaware, you’re coming off as deliberately combative and unwilling to do even a modicum of research yourself while insisting that total strangers do all the work for you and spoon-feed you every bit of information you want.

                That makes it seem like you’re not actually interested in learning anything, and instead are simply looking for a fight. I wouldn’t dare speculate on whether or not that’s actually the case or not, but that is why you’re being downvoted.

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                it’s not my job to educate random internet strangers. have some self-respect and make an effort to educate yourself.

                have a nice day.

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                  If I Google “pence anti-lgbt laws” I’ll probably get an already biased source that doesn’t mention the laws themselves, and if you don’t know them either you can just tell the internet

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                    you may respond by writing, in as much detail as you like, in what way you believe this is my problem. I promise to downvote it.

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                Two quotes:
                “But let me say on this issue, if we got to know each other, you’d know the Pences love everybody,” Pence continued. “We treat everybody the way we want to be treated. But on this issue, and it’s frankly something that when the Obergefell decision was made which legalized same-sex marriage in America, the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy wrote at the end, that this decision will likely create an intersection and tension between people in same-sex relationships and people in the exercise of their religious liberty.”

                “Look, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, I believe in traditional marriage, and I believe marriage was ordained by God and instituted in the law, but we live in a pluralistic society, and the way we go forward, and the way we come together as a country united, I believe, is when we respect: Your right to believe and my right to believe what we believe,” Pence said.

                There’s not exactly a specific law because it was decided by the Supreme Court. He’d most certainly support a law in Congress to overturn the Supreme Court decision though.

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                  He’s literally saying “I don’t personally agree with it, but this country is diverse and I’ll have to accept it” how’s that removing LGBT rights?

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                    Your summary is certainly not about removing LBTG rights, it’s saying he agrees with the institutions of the United States. I find it interesting however that that’s how you’d choose to summarize the quotes.

                    The part about removing LGBT rights is where he’s saying that law is / should be god’s will implemented and that god’s will is marriage being purely between a man and a woman. He can say he loves all equally, but he shows that’s not true when he classifies some people’s marriages as being unworthy of legal recognition.

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                In all the time and with all the keystrokes that you typed this chain, you could have googled “Mike pence, marriage equality”.

                Go eat some fish

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        Then don’t come to a post that deals with American politics asking dumb questions.

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          Dude Lemmy is all about fucking American politics. No, not Just Lemmy, all of the internet and news is filled with that geriatric infighting you call politics

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            So to summarize, you’re whining about people not informing you about how things work in America- a country you don’t live in, but think somehow you’re entitled to have everyone explain shit that doesn’t even involve you?

            That’s embarrassing for you.

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              No, I’m whining about how fucking everything is about America and how it’s literally necessary to inform about your bullshit just to be on the Internet

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                Dude… your entire comment history is you whining about American politics. Are there no hobbies in your country, or is it that complaining about the political system in a country you don’t even live in yours? If it’s the latter, might I suggest you go touch grass? They have that where you’re from, right?

                  • Pratai@lemmy.ca
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                    There’s world news communities and country-specific communities if you’re not too lazy to find them. Or you can whine like a little child and call people names if that makes you fee better.

                    Either way, thanks for the laugh, whatever your country’s equivalent of Karen is.