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- cars@lemmit.online
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- cars@lemmit.online
America’s automakers have staked their futures on the notion that electric vehicles will dominate sales in the coming years, spurred by buyers determined to reduce carbon emissions and save on fuel.
But so far, while EV sales are growing, their pace is falling well short of the industry’s ambitious timetable for transitioning away from combustion engines. Instead, buyers are increasingly embracing a quarter-century-old technology whose popularity has been surging: The gas-electric hybrid, which alternates from gas to battery power to maximize efficiency.
So far in 2023, Americans have bought a record 1 million-plus hybrids — up 76% from the same period last year, according to Edmunds.com. As recently as last year, purchases had fallen below 2021’s total. This year’s figures don’t even include sales of 148,000 plug-in hybrids, which drive a short distance on battery power before a gas-electric system kicks in.
It’s a problem for those that cannot charge at home. My apartment complex will not install chargers and I have no easy way to run a charger myself.
That’s not to say your point does not stand, but it’s still not a reality for folks like me quite yet. After my last car was totaled (RIP), I went with a hybrid. Pretty good fuel economy (35-45mpg in the city, 50-60 on the highway) and it hasn’t given me any issues so far.
If I still need a car by the time this one bites the dust, then I would definitely consider if an EV would fit my needs.
There will be laws if there aren’t already where you are that will require apartment buildings to install chargers if a tenant wants one, at the tenants cost.
There will then also be incentives for that, making it easier.
Its too obvious a problem to do nothing about with the transition goals in place.
Edit: also if they’re such dicks about an install you might even be able to install a portable charger that you can remove when you leave, or have it just be a plug. You don’t necessarily need to pay for a permemant fixture level 2 smart charger.
That would be big for EV infrastructure. I see where there is a push for such regulations now after looking it up after reading your reply, but that was not a thing when I needed it. Doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense to get an EV when I already have a car right now.
Before I bought my hybrid, I looked into the portable chargers and the parking spots are too far away from where I can access an outlet. But they would work for other folks, so it does open up the possibility for more people.
Jeez, who wants to foot that bill so the next guy doesn’t?
That’s why I suggested just a plug vs a whole charger, but you also might own the place in a condo.
Having a plug installed also benefits the property owner if renting so they might be willing to split the cost.
And if you really want an EV it might be worth it.
Running a plug to an apartment building parking lot properly would not neccesarily be cheap. I doubt a renter would be better off paying for that vs just running an efficient gas car. It only makes sense if you do it for the whole building at once at least then you get some economies of scale with bringing an electrician out and running wire through a parking lot.
It’s possible there might already be power nearby somewhere and adding a 120v plug isn’t that complicated. If they can’t put it on it’s own meter, you might need to enter into some agreement with the owner where you show them your cars monthly charging and then pay them accordingly, or they might do a fixed rate.
There are options there.
It really comes down to the owner and how much of a dick they want to be.
Its not complicated but it wouldn’t be cheap to pay an electrician to properly install an outlet out to the parking lot. If you own the condo it would be worth it probably but paying out of pocket for a rental units infrastructure I don’t see paying off for the prospective electric car owner.
Its always way more work than people expect to “just install a new plug here” in an existing and finished place. I would say the solution here is to require rental property owners to start supplying outlets to parking lots.
Maybe I’m wrong. People should get a quote for getting it done if they’re interested. But I think it’ll be surprisingly pricy in most places.
For most use cases, you won’t even need a full charger, just a standard outlet to plug in the car’s standard slow charger.