UN Human Rights Office - OPT: Unlawful killings in Gaza City - eviltoast

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I swapped the original article at the request of a mod to from a source deemed more reliable, but to avoid confusion when reading the comment section prior to this edit, here is the link to the original article. I chose the Relief Web source listed by some who commented. Cheers!

  • kaffiene@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Exactly like the IRA which Britain called terrorists and many others called resistance fighters. It’s a matter of perspective.

    • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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      11 months ago

      If someone’s perspective is that Hamas are resistance fighters, then their perspective is just wrong.

      Hamas have been leading Gaza for 18 years. They have done nothing good in that time. Whole Gaza is impoverished, conditions are terrible even when IDF don’t attack. In addition, Hamas leaders have share net worth of 11 billion US dollars and I am not even talking about how much money they get. Whilst leaders are extremely rich, their population is starving and is completely dependent on a country they are in a war with.

      Apart from that, they have also been terrible to Israel because they launched multiple attacks against them.

      So no, Hamas definitely are not freedom fighters but terrorists.

      • kaffiene@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Lol. Just restating your assertion doesn’t make it true. The head of the Turkish state declared that Hamas are resistance fighters. Hamas are resistance fighters by name and are considered so by many in the middle east. The UNs Palestinian expert compared Hamas to the French resistance. You having really big feelings about the situation doesn’t change the facts - it’s ALWAYS the case that one person’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. Stomp your feet if it makes you feel better but the world will go on regardless

        • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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          11 months ago

          I definitely don’t have big feelings about this situation. I am just amazed by someone’s positions.

          By your logic, we can fully justify that Hitler was a freedom fighter because the person who supports the Nazi dictator has just a different perspective. Facts, however, tell otherwise.

          When there is given a substantial proof about something (whether it is Hamas being a terrorist group or about the fact that the Earth is round), people who oppose are just wrong (if they don’t provide a proof which makes “fact” incorrect). It’s dead simple.

          When you come to a teacher with incorrectly solved equation, it won’t be you having a different perspective about mathematics than everyone else in the world, you will be just wrong.

          Just like Erdogan is wrong right now. But I am not really surprised by that because he, just like Hamas, would love to see ME without Israel at all.

          • kaffiene@lemmy.world
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            11 months ago

            Whatevs. All you’re doing is just restating your assertion. Youre entitled to your wrong opinion but I’m not interested in hearing it. Good luck to you.

            • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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              11 months ago

              Well, I have to explain it in multiple ways because some people, despite substantial proof, still believe Hamas is a liberation movement. I don’t know how judging something based on facts is incorrect…

              • kaffiene@lemmy.world
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                11 months ago

                JFC you really can’t read can you? If you can’t take a hint maybe you can take a block