"Both parties are the same!" - eviltoast
  • Cowbee@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    I call those people radlibs, they radically support the establishment dems and firmly reject any suggestion of movement towards the left. One of em asked me if I would rather move America to the left and enable genocide and a Trump victory, or vote Biden, and when I said I’d do both, vote Democrat and make grassroots change to the left like unionizing, they told me I had to choose.

    Wtf is that?

    • brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      Yeah, it’s very clear that, for some of them, they’re far more concerned with leftists being subservient to liberals than they are in actually getting our votes; just look at the person who went off at me for not thinking Biden is actively good. And they’re being upvoted for it too.

      • banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Of course because they aren’t left, they pander to the left then shame us when it doesn’t work. They don’t view politics in a dialectical way because they are ideologues. We on the left recognize political ideologies are contingent on economic realities and not the other way around. Liberals have no conception of that, they think if more people can simply be convinced rationally to adhere to an ideaology then political change will happen.

    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      I call them shitlibs. Ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center when it affects them personally.