What do you think would happen if Putin was assassinated right now? - eviltoast

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    11 months ago

    During his next public speech, you’d notice that his eyebrows are slightly bushier, his voice is slightly deeper, and he’s suddenly an inch taller.

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      "Doppelgangers! Listen!

      There is a good news and a bad news for you this morning.

      The good news is: Our Great Leader has survived the dangerous attack last night.

      The other news is: He has lost his right arm. "

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            If he loses his right arm, and Doppelgangers have to look exactly like him, they also have to lose their right arms

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            If Putin loses an arm, all of his doppelgängers will need to lose an arm too. Otherwise they’ll be immediately identified as doppelgängers.

            It’s a pretty well known thing that Putin frequently uses lookalikes for public appearances. It’s apparently an old habit from when he was a KGB agent. So if someone snipes him from a rooftop, it’s probably not even him; He can claim to have miraculously survived the shooting, then carry on as if nothing happened.

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    No matter who actually did it. Russia would blame Ukraine/NATO/USA/The West in general, together and separately in rotation.

    After that I have no real idea, who would succeed. There would be a massive power struggle both in the government and military.

    There is a strong possibility that several of the autonomous regions within the Russian federation would try to break away. There is about a 20% chance of a civil war because of this.

    And about a 1% chance of nukes being used.

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    Currently, there is no other really powerful figure next to him.

    Therefore a giant power vacuum emerges.

    The war would stop, probably very soon. But then the situation gets chaotic and unpredictable.

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      I’d wager the war goes from internal, to internal civil war, if Putin dies, as various power blocks try either secure their own positions/power, or reach for more.

      assuming they didnt try to blame the west, which then things get far more worse for NATO states, and possibly hot

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        There’s got to be some kind of Vice Putin isn’t there? A guy who can step in and rule with an iron fist and keep things running? Or is this just some kind of jackal feeding frenzy sort of situation when he dies?

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          Well yes, no and yes.

          There is a second in line, Mikhail Mishustin. He is relatively new to the position(prime Minister) and was likely chosen for his loyalty and because he is most likely a weak political actor.

          There is also Dmitry Medvedev who is currently the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia. He was the former Prime Minister and president of Russia. A long time member of Putin’s Government. He is likely a much stronger political actor. Having said that he may have had a falling out with Putin and has been sidelined for the last few years.

          There are also a number of generals and the leaders of both the FSB and GRU who could bring force to bear to gain power.

          It is unlikely that anyone one of these people have both the political capital and the monopoly on violence to easily take power. It is very common for strongman leaders to surround themselves with weak deputies so that they cannot be easily forced out of power by one of their own. This is in part why you tend to see autocratic regimes collapse into chaos.

          It is also worth noting that there is no second inline for the president in Russia. It goes president, prime minister, nobody.

          If you want to learn more about this dynamic CP Grey did a great few videos on YouTube called The Keys To Power. It explains how various types of leaders get and maintain power.

    • TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I’d imagine the troops in Ukraine would be pulled back into Russia largely to secure someone’s position in their upper ranks, with only enough to maintain defensive positions in Ukraine. If Ukraine broke through during this period it’d probably be over while Russia is distracted with internal issues.

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        largely to secure someone’s position in their upper ranks

        Yes, or simply because noone else really wants this war (=wants the country to pay the price of this war).

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    There would be a power vacuum, probably a few murders/suicides/defenstrations, and the elections scheduled for a few months from now will probably be postponed during the struggle for leadership of the country. My guess is the powers that eventually take over will agree to pull out of Ukraine, conduct a few show trials, and do whatever else they think they have to in order for the west to lift the sanctions and unlock the oligarch’s accounts.

    It would please me greatly to know that Ukraine will outlive Putin.

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        If they had instead focused on Kirov production the Ukraine war would have gone very differently.

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          It will end in 7 hours and everyone will have PTSD flashback for the rest of their lives when they heard the sound “pieeeew”

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        Was Dolly done in a vat? You can clone humans no problem. It’s just the age difference that’s the problem. And you don’t get to transfer the mind but we’ll have that figure out soon too.

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      That’d probably be true for a while, but after that they’d need to start an “election” where some military commander or other higher up will take his chair.

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        Fascists do not care about truth or facts, only authority, so whichever they deem more useful to them at the time they will make use of.

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          This isn’t about truth or facts. If something major happens in Russia or related to it and the president doesn’t show up to talk about it, that would raise eyebrows. Now imagine that happening over and over again. Putin dying would be the perfect opportunity for the US to start swaying Russia into a civil war. They definitely don’t want the president’s chair to be empty and contested for.

          The most useful thing to them will always be to shove anyone atop that chair before the US notices.

  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    destabilization until the Kremlin finds a new president in that time probably multiple nations would be indipendent and Ukraine would pretty much launch their offensive and the union state collapses and tv stations all across Russia hijacked