Entryism in the sneersphere

Absolutely stealing this.

Haha, check out this comment from the other Sneer Club:

They had me till the part near the end where they say doing an LLM slowdown is like banning medical research and if you don’t like it you are literally an ‘enemy of humanity’.

Like is this accelarationists doing sneer entryism? What’s happening?

Also the thread could’ve used a nod towards the pervasiveness of eugenics in the ratsphere but I guess that’s not the audience segyges’s going for.

edit: A distressing number of replies to that doing the opposite of sneering slop 😔 edit2: … which could in itself be construed as sneer entryism

Basically segyges feels like controlled opposition, just not by EAs, perhaps other people who don’t mind that he never brings up the pervasive eugenics angle? He certainly posts (including in LessWrong) like it’s his day job.

Maybe, but I’m also willing to buy that Gyges (and the other tech-employed wannabe-calm AI centrists populating Bluesky) genuinely believes in the broad concept of “AI” as the necessary next stage of techno-progressivism. He and his fellow travelers are just positioning themselves as the sane, sober, starched-shirt Presbyterian sort of believer, as opposed to the tongue-speaking, snake-handling Pentacostals that are the hardcore rationalists.

It’s important to understand that the eugenics aspects are never going to be a particularly high concern for people like Gyges. They’ve comfortably made it past the selection filters in education and employment that are relics of the eugenics movement, so they think IQ-supremacy and neo-phrenology can’t hurt them anymore. It’s when this attitude curdles into fear that someone might revoke the status conferred by passage through such selection filters that you get a DHH, Shuttleworth, etc. I think that’s a prominent root cause as to why I, and many of us here, can’t trust a Gyges type. They may differ with the fascists right now, but they also have no innate defense against ethical freefall.

is less of a cult than it is a cult factory.

Cult incubator. Use the correct Silicon Valley terms please.

he has a slobstack (ofc)

btw did you know the Luddites weren’t actually working class (n/m they predated the Marxist proletariat by like 75 years or so)

https://www.verysane.ai/p/against-the-luddites

now you have it straight from source:

e/acc, distinct from EA, is a rival ideology about technology.

(somewhere in this mix someone called me e/acc. i am not. if you’re going to classify me in this space, i am something like a Kurzweilian h+

e/acc is a troll ideology for upsetting EA people and scamming pmarca.)

then he complains about sneerclub for some reason, damn i can’t guess why

if anyone has Rat Explainer For Normal People 101, not written by weirdos (derogatory) that would be useful i think now that what is known here for decade broke into mainstream

LLMs doing Great Things Worth Ruining The World Over in medical research

there are entire wet labs whose software stack predates openai. go and ask anyone who works in a moderately long operating lab if there’s any load bearing Thing that runs under windows xp control or older (there will be). there are some extremely limited applications of pre-llm ml in drug design, but it’s trained on entirely different type of data and it does entirely different thing and i’d say it’s not load bearing. these things are expected to be fed with new data from testing new things provided in previous iterations and if you hit something you’ll get there on your own. all of that data is noisy

I feel like he lifted “cult factory” without attribution. Was that Robert Evans?