Houthis enforce embargo on ships heading to or leaving Israel - eviltoast
  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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    11 months ago

    They’ve already been using drones to harass Israeli affiliated ships and even seized one. They don’t have to be able to completely stop shipping, just to make it riskier and more expensive to do. That puts direct economic pressure on Israel. There’s a good article talking about this in more detail here https://new.thecradle.co/articles-id/14235

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        11 months ago

        There are publicly available databases on ships with pretty detailed information, including their travels. For a fee there are services that provide cargo information as well.

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            I imagine a certain amount had to be public so the west knows who’s ducking sanctions and can prevent import tax evasion, etc.

            Edit: meaning it’s catch 22. Hide the manifest and not be able to dock anywhere. Or makeb it public and let your enemies know what you’re carrying.

            Also, it might be the export countries who log the data to show everyone that they’re being honest?

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              11 months ago

              No, I just meant remove the manifests from public view.

              I am sure that shipping authorities already have that information, they’re not going to random sites for it.

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                Oh, I see what you mean. It could easily be shared on a need to know basis. I imagine that there’s money in it somewhere. Wouldn’t be surprised to find that the ports sell the information and the ships can pay like $15/month to l for privacy but want to saveb the cost lol

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                  11 months ago

                  I don’t know why @ComradeSalad wants to believe Ansar Allah is just three kids in a trenchcoat, incapable of identifying, targeting, or denying corporate shipping vessels from passing through a famously thin & fragile choke point right off their own shores.

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                    11 months ago

                    It’s likely I think that this has been in their playbook for a years, and the people executing it now have been training for it for who knows how long.

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                11 months ago

                Ships generally have to broadcast a bunch of stuff, like name, from where to where, number of crew etc. constantly while at sea, so all anyone really needs is the ability to receive broadcasts and they can receive those messages and figure out which ships to hit. If a bunch of ships are sending their info but this one isn’t you can also assume that that ship is trying to do shifty things so. Besides if they have a lot of people looking at it they can track ships from further away than just right off their coast.

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            11 months ago

            It’s already a logical leap to assume Ansar Allah is using manifest data, before getting to the hypotheticals of shutting down those data services.