Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024 - eviltoast

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Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.

The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden’s team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden’s administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.

However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties’ policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party’s focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn’t motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.

  • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I don’t cross picket lines, why would I vote for a union buster? Balk all you want but that’s my hard line. Already listed out the local reps I can’t vote for because of the same reason. Y’all can bend your beliefs however you want to justify feedin into the same old cycle but I told them this was my hard line and they crossed it. Fuck them.

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      If Trump is elected do you think that his administration would be more friendly to unions than the Biden administration?

      If you’re mad about Biden forcibly ending the rail strike (which was honestly infuriating) you should know that his administration continued to work with the labor union afterward to negotiate a deal while also avoiding a disastrous economic shutdown that would have resulted from the strike. Could Biden have done more to get a deal without forcing an end to the strike? Maybe. Should he have let the economy collapse in order to support labor rights? Maybe, but I understand why he didn’t.

      Biden was basically my last choice of the field of democrats running in 2020 but I don’t know what anyone else would have done to achieve better results.

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        I don’t disagree with most of what you said but there’s a real basic thing with the rail strike he could’ve done.

        If the government has the power to force a deal, he could’ve just given the workers the week off they asked for, forcing the companies to acquiesce instead of the people.

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          The federal government (executive branch) government did not have the power to force a deal. It had the power to break a strike

          Congress had the power to enforce the agreement as written, but could not pass a bill to do so.

          In early December, the House passed a bill to enforce the tentative September agreement. Interestingly, the House’s bill spun off a second bill to introduce seven days of paid sick leave into the contract.

          The first bill passed the Senate and got the president’s signature.

          The second bill failed in the Senate.

          The new contract’s provisions included pay raises through 2024 and immediate payouts to individual workers, Progressive Railroading reports. But there was little meaningful discussion of — let alone resolution to — workers’ calls for fairer attendance policies.

          https://uniontrack.com/blog/rail-unions

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      Honestly given the way elections work I’m the us this is a pretty shit line of reasoning

      Trump is a union buster and more

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        Cool, im not voting for Trump. Whatever happend to be the change you want to see in the world? If more people voted for their best interest candidate, not just whoever has the better chance at winning, maybe our democracy would work.

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          Until we do away with FPTP voting, you’re essentially throwing your vote away if you don’t vote Democrat or Republican.

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            wrong. a party only needs to achieve 5% popular vote to get federal funding next election cycle. everyone should vote for who they actually want.

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            Demonstratebly false considering enough votes for a third party gets them on the debate stage which gets them more voters and lets the rest of America know that actually have a choice.

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              Considering the fact that the US did start out with lots of candidates in each presidential election, and then naturally became a two party system from there, it doesn’t seem like “knowing they have a choice” is the problem. Rather, it is the FPTP system itself (which models and studies show trends towards a two-party system and stabilizes there)

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              Demonstratebly false

              enough votes for a third party

              which will never happen, making your first argument demonstrably true.

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            I’ve heard that one before, but if more people voted for their best interest instead of being feared and shamed into voting for a compromise then that wouldn’t be true. Be the change you wanna see my friend, if you can’t do it no one will. It’s not my fault the system is broken, and I’m allowed to vote for my best interest. If you dislike that my vote is not as impactful to you maybe you should do something to change the system because im satisfied voting 3rd party until the cows come home, because it will never be a viable choice if people continue to not vote third party.

            A lot of you are acting like lesser evilism isn’t exactly how we ended up choosing between a fascist and someone who’s too afraid to fight fascism. You think you’re gonna ‘leaser evil’ you’re way out of the problem that it caused?

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              Throwing away your vote and enabling a potential dictator is the opposite of being the change you want to see. It’s enabling the change you don’t want

              A key part of that philosophy is efficacy of action

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                The only thing that enables Trump is people who vote for him and the media that give him free press 24/7 for everything he does. He’s not even the incumbent wouldn’t I be enbaling Biden with a third party vote? Or is it Im always enabling whoever you think is worse if I vote third party? Your logic doesn’t hold up. Either I’m enabling them both or neither. Because I’m not voting for either of them. All you have is the parroted arguemnts that can’t survive a simple logic test.

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                  At the end of the day, you are required to either eat a shit sandwich or a stale chocolate chip cookie. You can eat a peanut butter cookie that isn’t stale, but at the end of the day if you haven’t chosen between the only 2 actual choices, then someone else is going to decide for you, and there’s a very good chance that you’re going to end up with a mouth full of shit. “But I chose the peanut butter cookie!” Yeah, well why is your mouth full of shit?

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                  “simple logic test” lol

                  It’s fine man the world can do without you being a smart person

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                    Tell me how it’s enabling Trump if Biden is the incumbent? How come a third party vote always enables whoever you think is scarier no matter whos in office or if there is no incumbent? Because its not based on logic it’s based on fear. You’ve yet to use anything that resembles logic and instead go to name calling because you have no arguement at this point.

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              You’re welcome to stand by your ideals, but FPTP will always boil down to a two-party system. If voting for a third party makes you feel better, go for it, but that’s all that it will accomplish.

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              Voting third party demonstrably does not change the system, at least in the US. Correct me if I’m wrong but I can’t think of any voter reform legislation that’s been actually advanced by third parties. Just one example, ranked Choice Voting in Maine wasn’t caused by third party candidates in office, it was a ballot initiative. And not to simp for corporate scumbags, but least the Democrats support the Voting Rights Act and oppose closing voting stations in black neighborhoods.

              Voting for a compromise is voting for one’s best interest for a lot of people. If the options are vote for harm, vote for harm reduction, or vote for someone who will not win, at least the people I know in marginalized communities vote for harm reduction. Because for a lot of them, the consequence of a conservative government is immediate real threats to their safety.

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                Marginalized voters not showing up for Biden is exactly what this article is about, don’t use them as propaganda for your own beliefs about voting.

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      Not voting democrat is a direct vote for fascism. Just because it’s not ideal and not fair doesn’t make it any less true.

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      This is a very privileged position to take. Certain demographics in our country are facing genocide at the hands of one party.

      “Same old cycle” is right wing propaganda. Biden is by far the most progressive president we’ve ever had.

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        You’re dillusional to call biden the most progressive president we’ve ever had. And tell me which unprivileged people Biden has been protecting? Far as I can see he let trans people back in the military then let the states do whatever they wanted to trans youth, and let the local courts sort it out. I bet they feel so safe now.

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        Having standards is not a “privileged position”, it couldn’t be more opposite

        Also having lived through the 1990’s, Joe Biden couldn’t be more conservative if he wanted to be, he’s a classic Dixiecrat from the South larping as a progressive for votes

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          If Dems lose the president and the Senate, LGBTQ populations will face genocide and abortion will be illegal across the country. But yeah, sure, Biden bad.

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          Joe Biden isn’t from the south. He was born in PA and called Delaware home lol. By no definition is he a dixiecrat