The truth is still out there - eviltoast
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    11 months ago

    Fermi Paradox. Are there aliens? Of course. Are they in our current time and local space? Probably not. It’s it fun to think about? Yes, that’s why science fiction exists.

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      More importantly, are they a lifeforms that we would even recognize as alive? The chances of an alien being humanoid are even slimmer. Then there’s whether they develop intelligence, whether they care about space, and whether they survive long enough to get anywhere.

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        If intelligent life exists anywhere else the biggest chance we have of finding anything would be a self sustaining vehicle sent off into space by them at some point. The chances of us being alive at the same time in close enough proximity to encounter each other is almost zero.

        If a vessel could wander space endlessly we have a slightly bigger (but still almost zero) chance of encountering it.

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          This was one of the only cool parts of the film Oblivion. Basically if an intelligence can cross that distance to us it would likely be a digital intelligence. That and if you want to fuck humanity without touching them, crack the moon.

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        Counterpoint, why do dolphins and sharks look so alike when they have a completely different phylogenetic tree? They separately developed traits that were very well suited to the medium of water. Convergent evolution means that it isn’t entirely unlikely that whatever we may find has similar traits to beings on earth, because we all exist in a universe of solids, liquids, and gasses.

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          Counter-counterpoint: both species come from the same tree of life, several of their traits taken for granted come from previous species’ adaptation, e.g. bilateral symmetry. When you see, say, a molusk with the same bodyplan as a shark, we can talk about it being a common possibility.

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        It’s a fair point, but I guess we would recognise them, especially if carbon-based.

        Think of another issue. We evolved in 6 million years. Assuming it takes 4 billion for the planet to form and organisms to form, that means there’s 8 bln years where civ can start. What’s the chance that they are at a similar tech level as us? Really small.

        Do you stop to talk to an ant on a field trip?

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    11 months ago

    At this point I just get mad when they say anything about aliens, it is always to take attention away from other important things.

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      11 months ago

      Indeed.

      I suspect the same with Area 51. They used aliens to cover up even worse stuff. Like torture techniques, biological weapons and other stuff banned by international accords like the Geneva convention.

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      Honestly the whole thing felt like glimpses of why the DoD can’t pass an audit not aliens.

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    11 months ago

    They were covering up the news about the ocean srreams possibly dying by 2025. They did it to cover up the news that they’re officially destroying the planet.

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      You do realize the media could run a week straight of news about ocean currents dying and half the population would challenge whether or not we even have or need ocean currents.

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        Ocean “currents”? I ain’t never seen no goddamn “currents” in the ocean, boy. Have you? They just be sayin’ these things to keep us distracted from how their undloadin’ trucks full of illegals in are country to steal are jobs and sell drugs and live off of welfare!

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        Are you saying the other half wouldn’t demand action?

        This isn’t about what the idiots would do. This is about what leaders would’ve been asked to do if the headlines were about the oceans and not aliens.

        Do not do the shady politicians’ job for them and help the distraction work… It was to cover so they could remain lazy.

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          Lol as if the half that cares has gotten their politicians to do anything about it when they actually have control.

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            Right, great idea - let’s all just give up and jump from the top of a cliff headfirst into rocks. No, wait, what I meant is bad idea. Horrible, horrible idea.

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            Seriously, stop doing their work for them. The point was to keep the job less stressful. Just because they’d ignore everyone doesn’t mean they want to hear all of those calls to action.

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              11 months ago

              And my point is that you can shout until your lungs disintegrate and the only thing that really talks is money. Money you ain’t giving them and big oil is.

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                11 months ago

                I agree. My point is putting your lips to their ass to blow raspberries doesn’t help. A lot of people view it as unironic ass kissing.

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          Also Don’t look up how the US military was able to influence that movie! It’s uselessly vague or redacted!

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    11 months ago

    If there were aliens, there’s zero chance Trump could resist bragging that he knows all about them.

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    Isn’t it funny how every single time there’s a huge military fuck-up there’s always some kind of confirmation of aliens that pulls everyone away?

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    11 months ago

    There was a hearing in the Senate too? I only saw the one in the US House. Does anyone have a link?!

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      I think it was a senate committee but I’m some random on the internet so what I say must be fact