Biden says that 'if Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running' - eviltoast
  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Barack Obama pulled off a surprise victory over the established Democratic candidates by campaigning on a message of hope and change. Of course his administration ended up only slightly more progressive than a standard Democrat’s, but the fact remains that a non-mainstream candidate can run and win on the promise of progressive reform.

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      I think Biden has been more progressive then Obama. Yeah, Obama was a minority and he was a damn good orator and importantly he wasn’t Hillary. He represented progress. But his actual policies? Nah. There is something aspirational about having someone who isn’t another old white man, and I think Obama was a decent President, just not particularly progressive.

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        In 20 years he’ll be viewed as the ragen of the dems for encouraging privacy to get steamrolled. He was in a position to act to protect Americans after bush and all he did was add fuel to the fire

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        I like to think Obama walked the worlds highest tight rope and never flinched. That was more progress than America had ever seen before. He also established that it is character not color that makes a leader. The current GOP rather burn it all down than accept these simple truths.

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        11 months ago

        Biden is more protectionist, which is a damn shame, but what we need right now, sadly.

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      And the established dem party learned from their mistakes. It will be much tougher to slide a progressive by again.

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        You can tell by how the DNC bent over backwards to accomodate Sanders and his campaign, even changing the plan to get rid of the Iowa Caucus as the first primary election since Sanders thought it would favor him in 2019. (Then Buttigieg won it instead)

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      11 months ago

      Of course his administration ended up only slightly more progressive than a standard Democrat’s

      This is why I liked Obama.