I don’t blame them. People can’t afford Bidenomics. I see people complaining all the time but elections have consequences.
I make a lot of money, so I am weathering it just fine. I am just not able to save as much as I would like.
As I said previously, I am not a fan of Trump but groceries were much cheaper under Trump. The cost of items was cheaper under Trump.
I can’t think of any way my life was worse under Trump.
I spent all of 2020 and most of 2021 indoors or masked everywhere else due to Trump’s mismanagement of COVID-19. I strongly suspect that wasn’t an experience limited to me. Of course, millions of Americans can’t answer your question at all because they died of COVID-19.
Of course the other thing Trump did that personally affected me was that he raised my taxes, so thanks for that!
Bro, what? It was China decriminalizing wet markets, knowing the risk for an outbreak. Didnt the CCP themselves say it was a wet market?
Do you live in China? I fucking don’t. There’s no reason a virus from a Chinese wet market should ever have been in the United States at fucking all.
Because viruses spread? Wtf are you talking about?
They don’t spread over oceans, dumbshit, unless you allow infected people to transit over them.
Trump was one of the first of the western leaders to close borders with China. He was called racist for it. Do you not remember what happened? It was like 2 years ago.
He didn’t ever close the border with China, though. Flights from China continued to bring people into the US throughout the Trump administration and had not actually ever stopped.
Yes he did. Here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffwhitmore/2020/10/19/when-did-president-trump-ban-travel-from-china-and-can-you-travel-to-china-now/?sh=75609f2f7484
Right, the “ban” that was no ban, as planes continued to arrive with passengers from China.
It’s TDS. We can talk about what made COVID unique but crashfrog is the only expert who doesn’t think it’s unique.
What made COVID unique was that most people were asymptomatic. Meaning they didn’t show symptoms. Yet, they could spread the infection. On average it took 5-30 days for the infection to show signs. That is unique as well.
What that means when trying to contain an outbreak is that it’s very difficult to contain it. By the time China was admitting there was an issue, it had already spread across the world. Even if Trump had isolated every border in the United States, it was already here and would have spread.
This is nothing more than TDS in full force and ignoring the scientific literature.
What is often ignored is COVID wasn’t that deadly. That is another reason why it spread so quickly. If COVID had the mortality rate of Ebola, we wouldn’t have asked people to local down. they would have done it naturally.
The lockdown also was done too early and poorly planned. This was Fauci blowing his load way too early as he was drunk with power.
If we had someone like Anders in Sweden, we would have done much better. The man knows his stuff, speaks honestly and will admit his mistakes. The public loved him. Osterholm would have been a better choice as well. He spoke from knowledge and factually.
So did the whole world. Try again.
Try what again? Yes, the thing that happened to the whole world also happened to me who dwells in it, any other insights you’d like to bring?
You are blaming Trump for the response the whole world took. Had you lived in France, you would have had the same thing.
Had you lived in Sweden, you would not have been burdened with masks, but in the large majority of countries, your experience would have been the same.
No, I’m blaming Trump for the response of the Federal government he was notionally the leader of. I say “notionally”, of course, since the official position of the White House during his administration was that Trump couldn’t and didn’t speak for his own administration, since he was drug-addled and quite literally asleep at the wheel most days (when he wasn’t taking 3 and 4 day weekends, of course.)
You’re free to make excuses for this loser over and over again, but it’s simply a matter of civic fact that Trump, as President of the United States, was the head of both the FDA and the CDC and all the other agencies to boot.
Yes, but I didn’t live in Sweden. I lived in the United States, the country Trump was supposedly the President of.
Had you lived in a red state, you wouldn’t have had to wear a mask all the time. Maybe you need to talk to your governor or local health department since they made those decisions.
I didn’t have to wear a mask at any time in my state, as far as I was aware. The travel “restrictions” were limited to “stay inside unless you’re going somewhere, or going nowhere”, which fully encompasses all of the reasons a person might leave their home so in practice was no restriction whatsoever. I had a C category public health exemption to travel restrictions for work, but then we all started working from home anyway and in any case there was literally zero attempts at enforcement of any travel restriction, anywhere in the US.
It’s not the presence of the masks that I care about. It’s the presence of the disease. That’s where Trump completely, utterly failed. You should watch the documentary “Totally Under Control” if you’d like to know more about how. Scott Gottleib’s book on it is pretty good, too.
Outside of Island nations, who do you think contained COVID? I am not aware of any country without a unique situation that contained COVID.
Sure, China claims they contained it but they were welding people in their homes. That isn’t a country in which I would want to live.
Sweden did exceptionally well but they once again are unique. They had Anders Tegnell who stuck to the plan, while you may not agree with it, their culture supported his plan.
I think we would have had a better plan had they ditched Fauci earlier and got someone who wasn’t a compulsive liar.
We talked about this. You’re acting like COVID was somehow uniquely infectious, but Wuhan-1 actually had lower infectivity, by about half, than more serious illnesses that were prevented from becoming pandemics by a far more competent public health response.
I know you want to act like Trump just got dealt a bad hand but it’s the opposite of that. He was dealt one potential epidemic - Biden’s been VP or P for at least five - and the virus he was dealt is less infectious than respiratory viruses generally are. It’s just that he was so incompetent that his actions turned a regional epidemic into a global pandemic. Did that happen everywhere in the world? Yes, simply as a function of how badly Trump performed, here.
You mean the masks that they’ve admitted did nothing to protect you… Or the vaccine that gives you myocarditis?
I haven’t had COVID due to masking and vaccination. I also haven’t had “myocarditis”, whatever that is.