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    11 days ago

    Scotland fairly consistently votes considerably more left than the rest of the UK. Some of the greatest freedoms for trans people in particular were in Scotland before the supreme court, based in London, nullified the protections for trans people to be found in the human rights act. So it’s easy for folks to see it as yet another case of the English overruling the Scottish Parliament.

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      10 days ago

      Bruh the case that I’ve turned trans rights was brought on behalf of a Scottish group. Scotland actually has a large bastion of TERFS and it’s where most of the big name transohobes and orgs live/are based.

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          Yes, an the same is true for England, no?

          But my point was this whole thing originated and was an issue in Scotland, so calling it England overriding Scotland is not accurate. If anything it’s the other way around.

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            The Supreme Court, by law, is meant to be made up of judges from each of the UK’s four countries, but in fact, it’s just two Scots, one Welshman, one from Northern Ireland and the rest from England, and overwhelmingly, it’s full of people who were Lords already and were educated privately. There are more people from Eton than Scotland on it.

            So no, I don’t buy that Scotland did it to itself. Scotland had the most trans-accepting legislation in the UK and the overwhelmingly English Posh Boy School educated Supreme Court overruled it.

            Lots of Scots correctly see it as Scottish left wing policy overridden by a bunch of English overlords.

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              Yes, there a 9 English Judges to Scotland’s 2 because England has 10x the population of Scotland. So a Scottish person actually has more than 2x the representation on the supreme court proportionally.

              And it was a majority English government that put the equalities act into law in the first place.

              Yes it absolutely was Scotland doing it not only to itself, but to the entire union.

              Because as a trans person in England if it wasnt for For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers case about an act of the Scottish parliament, where the case opinion was lead by a Scottish man, I would still have the same rights to live my life as I did 3 years ago, but I do not.

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                For women scotland are anti trans bigots funded by nasty author. They’re not for Women and they’re not for Scotland. Why would you believe deceptive people’s claims about who they are for?

                Pulling the West Lothian Question nonsense on me doesn’t change for one minute the fact that the English overrule the Scottish again and again and again. Yes, England is more populous, that’s how it has so many MPs and that’s how it overrules Scotland so often. Heck, Yorkshire has more MPs than Scotland.

                Don’t blame the Scots, blame the anti trans bigots. This meme is about the largely left wrong Scots standing with trans people when both feel betrayed by the supreme court for interfering with Scottish pro trans policy.

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                  I’m under no illusion about them being for women, they are a hate group, but they are a Scottish hate group full of Scottish tranphobes funded by Scottish bigots.

                  Scotland has it’s own devolved parliament. But England does not.

                  Most people in England stand with Trans people too. The idea that Scotland is some left wing utopia filled with kind people but England is a horrid place full of right wingers is just nonsense.

                  And again, you can claim that this is England’s fault all you want, but as an English trans person, if it wasnt for a Scottish supreme court judge siding with a Scottish hate group on a issue concerning an act passed in Scottish parliament, then I would still have my rights under the equalities act.