EU leaders fearmonger about immigration while neglecting the real and deadly threats posed by climate change. - eviltoast
  • silence7@slrpnk.netOPM
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    1 year ago

    The challenge is that exclusion isn’t necessarily the best way to shift views. People can and do change, particularly if you can encourage them to change their media diet or you can get somebody whom they respect to explicitly talk about climate.

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      1 year ago

      Changing the views of a conservative is a lost cause. Such efforts are the distraction that corporate polluters are paying big money to achieve. The goal is not to change their views, but to separate them from intelligent civilization. Let them live the way they demand to live. Poorly. If they become introspective and curious about the world, it is there for them to learn about. But that process comes from within. In the meantime, we must not be dragged down by conservatives. We should exclude them and move past them on a societal and commercial scale.

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        1 year ago

        You can sometimes shift people a bit. You don’t get some sudden flip in position, but can move people a few notches along, at least when interacting with somebody as a peer, and not in a situation where they’re just out to troll.

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          That’s very nice, but it will not be effective. This approach is the default approach for polite progressives and has failed for decades. The result is an environment where conservatives become more conservative despite the brief positive interactions.

          The world’s knowledge is available to them when they decide to seek it. Including them in conversations is only placating and distracting the progressive. It is not shifting anything substantial for the conservative.

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              In the context of modern conservatives, their entire worldview negates progress and caring about people. Decades of experience have proven that this is the case.