FBI Labels Anti-Fascists and Anti-Racists as Violent Extremists - eviltoast

A recently released Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) document titled “Domestic Terrorism Symbols Guide”* links common protest symbols to “terrorism” — another marker in a common theme of conflating militant protest for social justice with deadly terrorist violence within the United States. Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Brennan Center have raised warnings about such documents, citing inadequate protections for people’s constitutional rights.

  • Doc Avid Mornington@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    The Columbine shooters did not use hunting guns. We have better access to mental health care than in the past. We also have greater access to more deadly guns. Countries with strong gun control do not have our problem with mass shootings. Implementing strong gun control has been proven to stop mass shootings. A lot of money has been spent by arms dealers to convince you the the problem is your fellow humans, and not the largely unregulated flow of machines of death supplied for capitalist profit.

    Should we have better access to mental healthcare, and intervention programs? Sure. Funny, though, how the people insisting it’s all about mental illness and not about the gun profiteers also usually oppose any public spending on mental healthcare as well.

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      I mean the problem is my fellow human. AI hasn’t picked up a gun and shot up a school as far as I know.

      I am for more efforts to provide mental health care for low income people’s and it should be free.

      There are attempts at brain washing on both sides depending on the agenda.

      I can agree that military style fire arms do not need to be in the hands of ordinary civilians that haven’t undergone training in weapon safety. I believe it should be required to have yearly training on weapon safety for all fire arms.

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        There are attempts at brain washing on both sides depending on the agenda.

        The problem with this “both sides” bullshit is that leftist critique is nearly always targeted at systems, as opposed to reactionary ‘brainwashing’ is targeted at minorities

        A “radical leftist” isn’t out to murder anyone, they’re out to disrupt the system. As far as I’m concerned, the problem is almost entirely a reactionary politics problem, not a problem of firearm training and not even one of mental health (though they are contributing factors(

        Don’t conflate libratory movements with reactionary terrorism

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          1 year ago

          I am honestly loving your take on the subject. It actually made me think a little about what you are saying and the fact you are very respectful in your wording is wonderful.

          Can you explain reactionary brainwashing of minorities a bit further?

          Many far leftists I have run into have been very controversial or just plain rude so having someone speak plainly and respectfully is a nice change of pace.

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            I find your lack of irony refreshing, too.

            I’m confused by your question though, can you clarify your choice of using the word ‘of’ in the question “brainwashing of minorities”?

            It’s so rare to run into a reactionary conservative that’s so curious about left-leaning politics, thank you for your curiosity

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              I try to keep my perspective unbiased which is difficult because I am human after all. When conversing with someone that brings up interesting perspectives and does not devolve to name calling I try to speak with them further because those are the ones who’s reasoning skills tend to be more developed and make for better conversations over all.

              From how I understood what you were saying, there is a reactionary brainwashing of sorts. Perhaps I was incorrect in my belief that you meant of minorities specifically. I may have read it incorrectly.

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                Thanks for acknowledging your imperfect interpretation.

                I used scarequotes in the phrase you are referencing, perhaps that is where your confusion is stemming from? Brainwashing was used in your comment, I was simply making a reference to your usage.

                The point: reactionary politics identifies the “outsider” as the subject of opposition. Radical leftist politics identifies oppressive systems as the subject of opposition.

                Hence: the use of firearms by one group is simply not comparable to the use by the other.

                Hopefully that clarifies things for you.

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                  Yes it does, I appreciate that. Thank you.

                  Would you agree that reactionary politics is highly based on raised emotions or high tension to the outsider? Or perhaps a lack of understanding? Or maybe a lack of depth in sight?

                  When identifying an oppressive system what are the markers of such a system? What qualifies as oppressive? Is it subjective to an individual or is there a science behind it?

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                    Reactionary politics is less a coherent ideological framework and more a reflexive rejection of social change. It’s almost by definition oriented against minority social groups.

                    Oppressive systems exist in all types, and there’s a great deal of study that deals with it. If you’re genuinely curious to learn more, I’m Foucault is who I am most familiar with and would recommend for anyone wanting to know more about structural analysis.

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        1 year ago

        There are attempts at brain washing on both sides depending on the agenda.

        Such as? Where is this (supposed) “leftist” brain-washing machine supposed to be at?

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          It often pops up in opinion pieces or news articles just like any other propaganda mean to influence your opinions.

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        1 year ago

        Pretty much the entire rest of the world thinks that the US gun lobby is batshit insane. Have real been brainwashed?

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          The rest of the world can do whatever they want.

          “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” -Benjamin Franklin

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            1 year ago

            Your glib response and cute little quote doesn’t actually answer the question I asked. Possibly because you don’t have a good answer