Xi Jinping: the collective punishment of people in Gaza must stop - eviltoast
  • tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I think you’ve strongly erred here. The prevailing scientific model in any field is determined by a majority consensus of scientists who find the particular evidence compelling enough to form an authority on the matter. Anyone who wishes to change this prevailing model must have enough evidence. The onus, once again, is on those who wish to change the status quo.

    As for Palestine, it has many willing neighbours to record the atrocities happening there, and tiny borders to prevent them from doing so. China has the opposite.

    • What_Religion_R_They [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      That is not the scientific method, a simple Google search will show you its actual meaning. If you are implying that scientists have studied… the “uyghur genocide”?? I don’t even know what you are trying to imply. It’s just laughable. No scientist has studied the XUAR to claim there is a genocide. No amount of evidence will suffice if you haven’t formed your opinions logically. You do not know what your own claims are (is it that scientists say there’s an Uyghur genocide?), and you do not have a clear vision of how someone is expected to challenge you because of it. Additionally, you have not presented a single shred of evidence, and it is clear you engage in bad faith and do not care to get to the truth of the matter so I fully expect you to bury your head in the sand - I will not reply further.

      I will present evidence suggesting the absence of such a program, but naturally because you have not presented evidence for the existence of it, the claim that “China is genociding Uyghurs” is unfalsifiable. It is like claiming God exists - you don’t care to prove it, and no one can disprove it.

      My sources:

      The World Bank sent a team to investigate in 2019 and found that, “The review did not substantiate the allegations.” (See: World Bank Statement on Review of Project in Xinjiang, China

      The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is the second largest organization after the United Nations with a membership of 57 states spread over four continents. The OIC released Resolutions on Muslim Communities and Muslim Minorities in the non-OIC Member States in 2019 which:

      1. Welcomes the outcomes of the visit conducted by the General Secretariat’s delegation upon invitation from the People’s Republic of China; commends the efforts of the People’s Republic of China in providing care to its Muslim citizens; and looks forward to further cooperation between the OIC and the People’s Republic of China.

      In this same document, the OIC expressed much greater concern about the Rohingya Muslim Community in Myanmar, which the West was relatively silent on.

      Over 50+ UN member states (mostly Muslim-majority nations) signed a letter (A/HRC/41/G/17) to the UN Human Rights Commission approving of the de-radicalization efforts in Xinjiang.

      1000 delegates of 30 Muslim countries visited Xinjiang and envoys expressed that “freedom of religious belief and various rights of Muslims are duly guaranteed.” And that what the delegation saw and heard along the way “is completely different from what some Western media reported.”

      Even the US state department walks back its claim that there is a genocide. Instead, from their rhetoric and in the absence of even the smallest shred of evidence it is clear that their internal logic in claiming that there was a genocide (or even forced labour or ethnic cleansing) is based entirely on their political aims.

      The US also prevented the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights from visiting China for more than 3.5 years, while China has been inviting them since 2018. This is a classic US tactic that it has employed since the founding of the UN (ever since the 1948 with the Korean elections).