In Wake Of 18 Murdered In Yet Another Mass Shooting, NRA-Funded Federal Agency Trains Children To Shoot Guns - eviltoast
  • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This is such a bullshit article. Yeah the NRA is a terrible organization and there are a lot of reasons to attack them. But attacking the educational, gun safety and shooting sports programs that they offer or fund is complete bullshit and is detrimental to the public good.

    This is like saying we shouldn’t offer driving classes because one day a student might get into an accident.

    Correlation is not causation.

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      1 year ago

      This is like saying we shouldn’t offer driving classes because one day a student might get into an accident.

      No, it’s like saying driving classes shouldn’t be beholden to funding from the “Reckless Driving Is Fun Yeehaw Get-er-Done” club. You’re just flat out misrepresenting the article. Did you actually read the article? Because it sure does sound like you’re just replying to the headline.

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        Without funding from the NRA those programs and facilities likely would not exist. I read this article for exactly what it is, a hit piece by anti 2A advocates to keep knowledge of firearms that does not fit their narrative from the public.

        Even if the classes provide a public service and help save lives it doesn’t fit the “guns are bad Mckaaay” narrative they want to push.

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          Without funding from the NRA those programs and facilities likely would not exist. I read this article for exactly what it is, a hit piece by anti 2A advocates to keep knowledge of firearms that does not fit their narrative from the public.

          If you’re so concerned about youth programs to teach children “firearm safety” maybe you should be paying for those classes and facilities to exist instead of the NRA. Did you even entertain that possibility for a moment? Don’t answer that, it’s a rhetorical question. We both know you didn’t and you wouldn’t.

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            The NRA is a organization that is funded by donations. I have no problem with them using those donations to promote safety and marksmanship.

            I personally can’t fund the facilities that these activities take place in. Just like you most likely couldn’t fund a gymnasium or skate park. There are non profits who help provide funding for all these activities, 2A organizations are no different.

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              1 year ago

              Gymnasiums and skate parks don’t package and market fear and teach children to use deadly weapons, so yeah they’re a little different

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                1 year ago

                Obviously you’ve never attended a firearms safely course or marksmanship course. I’ve attended sessions with all of my children.

                They never market fear and always seek to instill safety and marksmanship.

                You can wring your hands, fear monger and try to build a false narrative all you want. But you are just like the right wing religious nut jobs who attack sex education. Like them you’re just hurting society by trying to keep people ignorant.

                just like relig

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                  The NRA markets fear. It’s their sole purpose for existing. I don’t think they should be involved in firearms training whatsoever.

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                    1 year ago

                    As I stated in my original post there are a lot of things you can attack the NRA for. Firearm education and safety training is not one of them.

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      This is like saying we shouldn’t offer driving classes because one day a student might get into an accident.

      This is a hilarious example considering that in most states you have to be like 16 or something before any driving classes are offered. For precisely the reason you stated.

      It’s additionally hilarious because cars are something that just about every person in America has to use at some point. Transportation is essential and there are very few other ways to do it, thus driving privileges that are easily and affordably obtained even at the young age of 16 or so are a necessary and calculated risk. I personally would not want that to be a reality for guns and defense, but what do I know.