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President Joe Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping agreed that China would crack down on the production and exporting of fentanyl and the precursor chemicals used to make it, according to media reports.
But while Biden is painting the agreement as a win that will “save lives”, drug policy experts told VICE News they’re skeptical the measure will curb the overdose crisis—and it may make the drug supply worse.
Biden and Xi met Wednesday in San Francisco, where both leaders were in town for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit. According to the New York Times, China will go after the exporting of illicit fentanyl into the U.S. and the manufacturing of precursor chemicals, which are being used to make fentanyl and smuggle it into the country from Mexico.
I agree with what yr saying but it all makes me think you’ve never tried, whether on purpose or not, fentanyl.
Fent…makes you absolutely retarded when yr on it, but when you are, you are transported to the warm busom of God til you snap out of it. You don’t care about anything, hunger, cold, any trauma, any worries, any stressors. It all melts away for that short amount of time.
Besides the physical addiction sending a need as strong as thirst in the desert, that reprieve from pain is addicting all it’s own. A good majority of people actively using and seeking out fent assume they’ll die from it, and they’re fine with that.
I’ve never been on the ban drugs train, I think the subjective exploration of consciousness and meta-reality are incredibly important for people, be that in personal mental health and growth, artistically and spiritually. At the same time, I think letting Shamans control the flow isn’t a terrible idea, but if implemented should also come with an end date after society comes to terms with itself. I think terminal patients should be given as much DMT as they want for as long as they want it, it’s like making practice runs at the other side. I think ibogaine should be widely available for resetting addictions back to null, but that should prob be a guided trip, same thing with ayehuasca.
But fent shouldn’t be allowed outside a medical setting. The opioid receptor is devil in a red dress; dance with the devil, devil don’t change, devil changes you.
In a kinder society we would prescribe meds that turn off pain receptors, like the ones developed from jellyfish and other neurotoxins, but that would prob be stipulated with forced, active restraint bed rest. We don’t use those now because pain let’s us know when we push too far, otherwise we’d just keep reinjuring ourselves. But fent gives that absence of pain too, and coupled with the i-cant-stress-how-extreme-cravings people will look at the work necessary to holistically end their pains and just say, nah man. At the cost of everything. Parents abandoning children. Cuz once their high, they don’t care. So they just plan to stay forever high.
I’m all for banning fent.
It’s the embodiment of my second favorite malaphor “build a man a fire and he’s warm for a night, but set a man on fire and he’s warm for the rest of his life”
That may be true recreationally, but I had it in the ER when I had a kidney stone and all it did was take away the pain and make me drowsy.
Yeah both my wife and I don’t get much effect from opiates when we are prescribed them and don’t get how folks can become addicted to them. I think different folks just react differently. I guess we are lucky to have the meh effect from them.
Are you or your spouse redheads by chance? People with red hair have an inherent genetic tolerance.
I wonder if it’s the higher percentage of Neanderthal DNA.
Smokers also require more pain meds, not just the opiates but the -caines as well.
I have strawberry blonde hair and smoke. Any pain meds and me is like, ‘turn it all the way up Dentist’ or ‘yea, Vicodin does nothing. That bottle is like 2 doses.’
I landed me a debilitating repetitive injury from work, and besides taking a lateral move, I needed pain meds just to function. The pain would spread from my shoulder/back/arm up my neck into my brain. I’m talking rapid onset migraines where I’d go blind.
First time, I was driving.
Not fun.
I didn’t know that could even happen. Regardless, I needed help to work, then without them Id withdraw and be unable to work. Right down the slippery slope I went. Got to a point where I just said no more, idc what happens, took 10days off work, sat at home with 30 boxes of donuts, various one step meals, 20 gallons of choc milk and otter pops. Told myself, and everyone else, i was sick. I refused to make any decisions besides what to eat that was in the building for the entire time as I considered my mind compromised and sus.
I am exceptionally willful tho and can compartmentalize like it’s the ADHD Olympics. Results will vary. I do not recommended the experience. 0/10. Dengue fever in a foreign land where I speak 0.5% of the language was more pleasant.
I was glad it took away the pain, but yeah, they don’t do anything for me that would get me addicted to them. The constipation is the worst part.
The difference is need. Itll work the pain first, what’s leftover will work towards the high
Good health/no pain= to the moon 🚀
Also, I’m happy it helped you. It can be fantastic in a clinical setting.
Thanks for writing this up. This is the kind of comment I used to be on the lookout for on Reddit, so this is making Lemmy feel like it’s going to be able to fill that old niche for me.
Excellent way with words!
Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I 100% get trying to reduce fentanyl my response was more a complaint that we seem to always do these half measures but yes trying to get fentanyl gone is a good thing. I’ve done many drugs but thankfully never fent.