Nonbinary Teacher in Florida Fired for Using Mx. Title - eviltoast

The virtual school says its hands are tied due to Florida’s “don’t say gay” law. However, the teacher has lodged a complaint against it.

  • agnomeunknown@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    60
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    1 year ago

    Please explain how you’d know how to pronounce Mrs as missus\mizzes without someone explaining it? It’s no more confusing than that archaic bullshit.

    • jettrscga@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      31
      arrow-down
      14
      ·
      1 year ago

      They’re abbreviations for master and mistress. Of course those are archaic etymologies, but that’s how they evolved into abbreviations.

      The strange thing is that Mx is an abbreviation that doesn’t have a basis in a word as far as I know. It’s literally conforming to those heteronormative traditions and adapting them with an “X” bandaid.

      • agnomeunknown@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        32
        arrow-down
        16
        ·
        1 year ago

        The point is that the teacher is non binary and forced to choose an honorific. They wanted to use a neologism because there isn’t an established term and they were fired because of bigotry. It doesn’t really matter if the term makes sense to you or anyone else, it was their choice.

        Your comments reek of the same smug shittiness of people who throw a fit about they\them pronouns not being “grammatically correct” when singular they has been in use for ages.

        Non binary people exist, and if they are required by their job to use a formal title, they should have one that recognizes who they are.

        • jettrscga@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Your knee-jerk reaction is that any criticism of the word is a criticism of non-binary people. I explicitly made a point to explain that’s not the case. And I used “they” in my first comment, so I have no idea where you’re coming from.

          Treating any discussion as black and white and immediately becoming defensive isn’t helping as much as you think.

          There are plenty of titles they could use. The issue is this school rejected those other titles too, and that’s not right.

        • crashoverride@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          You sound like you’re the type of person who gets offended for other people when in fact, those other people aren’t offended in the first place. I wish I could downvote you more than once

          • cricket99@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            1 year ago

            I don’t want to send me kids to a school where the teachers intentionally try to impose their made up beliefs on them. Is it too much to ask for teachers to stick to the subjects they are supposed to teach?

        • mriormro@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Your comments reek of the same smug shittiness

          Their comment doesn’t read this way at all. You’re just arguing past them.

      • djsoren19@yiffit.net
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I kinda feel the same about Xe/Xim. I think the reasoning is just “they have to abide by the same conventions or people won’t get it.” It would be a lot cooler to just fully break away from those traditions and have something more eloquent, but language keeps taking the path of least resistance.

        • cricket99@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Sounds like a first world problem if I have ever heard of it. I think you can survive going as Ms or Mr.

      • Cethin@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Mr./Mrs. are evolutions of language, like you said. They don’t really refer to the original words for the most part. Mx. is an evolution of the same language and just as easy to pronounce. Sure, it’s a “bandaid” if you want to call it that, but the English language is 90% bandaids. To rule out this one when there isn’t a good alternative for general use (prof. or teacher would be fine for this person, but not for someone who’s not a teacher) is pretty narrow minded.

    • cricket99@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Mr/Ms/Mrs all makes sense.

      Mr -> You are a male

      Ms -> You are a female

      Mrs -> You are a married female

      Mx -> You uhh feel like you are neither male or female or something. keyword being “feel”. The 3 above all are objective characteristics. The latter is not.

      An adult should be able to teach kids without feeling the need to impose their own wacky views on them. Just use mr or ms. You are an adult, you can handle it.