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  • Yerbouti@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    We are REQUIRED to use outlook at my job, along with all the MS bullshit. I’ve changed my Thunderbird interface to make it look exactly like outlook, synced my calendars, and kept using it for the past year or so. They have no clue. I hate Microsoft with passion, I will spent hours of my free time to find ways to be out of their ecosystem if I need to, and I usually manage to do so.

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        1 year ago

        I honestly don’t know much about how that works. I’ve just managed to sync outlook emails to Thunderbird with the Exchange protocol or something. I get taken to my organisation page once every two weeks or so, for the 2FA, and everything works just fine. I’ll just play dumb if IT ever ask me question but so far so good.

        • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          You know we can detect every application you have through tools like Nessus, right? Your IT guys are either morons or they just let you get away with it because it’s easier than hearing people pitch a fit about software they’re not allowed to use.

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            1 year ago

            Both scenarios are fine with me. I don’t care if they’re incompetent or just don’t care, as long as I can use my softwares. But I doubt they would have the time to scan every staff’s laptop to see what applications we use. They also said it was mandatory for all the students and teachers to use the stupid 2FA Microsoft app on our phone, but I’ve been using Keepass on desktop without problems (and even shown it to some students). Next step, I’m gonna install Fedora Asahi Remix on the M1 mac they provided me.

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              They also said it was mandatory for all the students and teachers to use the stupid 2FA Microsoft app on our phone, but I’ve been using Keepass on desktop without problems (and even shown it to some students).

              Yeah if they’re just using the MS app for OTP generation, there’s no reason to use that specific application. Keepass is perfectly fine.

              Asahi is pretty great. Only issue for me personally is the lack of speaker support. Audio works fine through headphone jack or bluetooth though.

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                That’s too bad for speaker support cause these M1/2 have the best sound I’ve seen on any laptop. How are the graphic performance, can they match what we have on macOS? I secretly dream of the day we will be able to use the Apple silicon macs for VR. I actually managed to get some things to work decently with a 2018 intel Mac and ALVR a while back.

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                  Apparently that good sound is due to extensive software processing. The asahi devs really want to make a good impression, so they’re spending a lot of time tweaking their sound processing to try to match or beat the MacOS quality before release. Which is both good and annoying. I appreciate the attention to detail, but it would be nice to have any speaker support when I just need to hear something quickly.

                  The graphics drivers are still in active development, but they have OpenGL3.1 support. Vulkan is under development.

                  I haven’t tried games, but have seen some posts where users have them working. I don’t think many games are compiled for arm yet though. The graphics dev did a youtube stream back in march where she plays steam games using FEX-Emu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJSfFzsU75g

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              Time? You just set it to scan every host on your Active Directory. It’s like a ten minute setup and spits out a report when you’re done.

              Yeah, you’re definitely the guy they hate but don’t get paid enough to fight. Security risks users are usually too much of a pain to deal with so we just tell our supervisors that you’ll end up ransomware’ing the company one day and let them handle it from there if they care enough.

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                1 year ago

                Well, IMO the real security problem is forcing all the people who want to be part of Montreal’s largest university to give all their personal data to a shitty, delinquent, soulless company like Microsoft. The stupid 2FA application is also a huge discriminating factor, preventing anyone who doesn’t have a compatible phone from studying at our university. But now MS have the phone # of 98% of our community. Did you know that the ms 365 suite has literally been banned from academic institutions in Germany, due to security concerns? On our side, we pay millions every year to this company for dysfunctional services for which free, secure alternatives exist. Universities shouldn’t be on their knees to big business, that’s what I think, and no, I don’t feel any guilt about using secure open-source software.

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                  It’s not secure if the user installing the software doesn’t understand network security at all (which you don’t, and admitted) you seem to think security is an issue with your personal data being harvested whereas I’m talking about actual security like threat actors hacking into your storage arrays to encrypt or steal information.

                  But it’s fine, I’ll take my ten years doing security analysis and network engineering and go. Clearly you’re an IT expert since you can install Linux.

                  This place is full of people like you, who think they understand the way things work but are focused on big scawy Microsoft meanwhile installing god knows fucking what from god knows fucking where. I use Linux and love it, but script kiddies like you are the bain of actual IT professionals existence.

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                    1 year ago

                    Dude, are you unhappy or something? Or some kind of Microsoft fanboy maybe? Because you have the attitude of 6 yo kid. Adults should usually be able to express themselves without falling into personnal insults.

                    Are you mad that people want the control of their computers, does that makes you feel irrelevant? Is that why you say things like " This place is full of people like you" (lol)? Flashnews, it’s 2023, everybody uses computers everyday, you’re not special. Maybe you should look at other professions, you don’t seem to enjoy your job.

                    So yeah, if you can’t have a discussion without behaving like an asshole, take your 10 year experience in whatever and go, nobody cares.

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      1 year ago

      There are people in my workplace (which uses Gmail) who willingly use Outlook to access it then complain about Outlook problems. Outlook is the biggest piece of trash email client software I’ve ever used.

      At one place I worked at, it was OBLITERATING any mails from one particular person because of a completely unrelated filter I had. Email notifications from them would appear for a few seconds, then the email would completely disappear (not even in deleted, or in any filter folders). Everyone else cced could see the emails except me, and IT couldn’t figure it out. I had to disable ALL my filters which trashed my inbox with stupid work circulars. Fuck Outlook.