An Auto Loan Debt Crisis Looks Imminent - eviltoast
  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    Head gaskets, plural, on a Subaru boxer engine! One on each side. The procedure for that job basically starts with step 1: Remove engine.

    So at that rate, if you have a new crate motor on hand you can skip all the shit in the middle and proceed straight to step 2: reinstall engine. It doesn’t surprise me the parts cost for an engine outweighs the labor cost for removing it plus taking it apart twice.

    I’m not sure it’s possible to get the heads out of a modern Subaru without pulling the engine. An older one where there was more room in the engine bay, maybe. But there’s too much shit in the way and the unibody and wheel arches are like 1/2" away from the tops (sides) of the heads. I’d doubt you could get a wrench on all the bolts, let alone snake the head bolts out which are like 10" long.

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      And what happens to the old engine? Does it get refurbished somewhere slow&cheap and become a crate motor for step 2 a few months down the line? Or thrown out?

      • Depends, but most likely it is either parted out or sent back to be refurbished. Failing that, it will certainly be recycled. There is a shitload of aluminum in any vaguely modern engine (like, from the 1990’s onwards) so even the shadiest of shadetree mechanics will have it melted down for cash before just chucking it in a landfill.

        Same thing happens with transmissions. It’s nearly impossible to buy a new transmission for cars that are more than a couple of years old – they’re all remanufactured by Jasper or whoever.

      • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
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        Yes there are companies out there that buy and refurbish engines. You give them yours as a core and they send you a ‘refurbished’ one.

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        The place I’m going through will take the old engine once it’s out and refurbish it if they can or part out if the components are good. Personally I think they’ll scrap it as it’s over 150k miles

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      Honestly I didn’t even know it was plural. There’s no way to work on the engine while it’s in sadly so the engine does have to be pulled, heads removed, get everything resurfaced, and since it’s out replace hard to reach components or pay the price again a few months later. Knowing what I know now I won’t be getting another vehicle like this. The old legacy models it was $1,200-$1,500 for the head gasket so when the shop said $3,000 I nearly had a heart attack. My shop did the right thing and said engine swap with a few buddies and save some serious money so that’s our plan.