Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. This was a bit late - I was too busy goofing around on Discord)


So, Iām taking this one with a pinch of salt, but it is entertaining: āWe Let AI Run Our Office Vending Machine. It Lost Hundreds of Dollars.ā
The whole exercise was clearly totally pointless and didnāt solve anything that needed solving (like every other āaiā project, i guess) but it does give a small but interesting window into the mindset of people who have only one shitty tool and are trying to make it do everything. Your chatbot is too easily lead astray? Use another chatbot to keep it in line! Honestly, I thought they were already doing this⦠I guess it was just to expensive or something, but now the price/desperation curves have intersected
Just one more chatbot, bro. Then prompt injection will become impossible. Just one more chatbot. I swear.
Sorry, I meant just one more guardrail. And another ten thousand tokens capacity in the context window. Thatāll fix it forever.
https://archive.is/CBqFs
Why is WSJ rehashing six month old whitepapers? Slow news week /s
Anything new vs the last time it popped up? https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1
EDIT:
Whats that word for doing the same thing and expecting different results?
Hah! Well found. I do recall hearing about another simulated vendor experiment (that also failed) but not actual dog-fooding. Looks like the big upgrade the wsj reported on was the secondary āseymour cashā š chatbot bolted on the side⦠the main chatbot was still claude v3.7, but maybe theyād prompted it harder and called that an upgrade.
I wonder if anthropic trialled that in house, and none of them were smart enough to break it, and thatās what lead to the external trial.