“When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”
How are we still letting cops just turn off body cams? It defeats the entire fucking purpose.
Privacy. Can’t go to the bathroom. They use it and abuse it.
The ability to turn the cam off while you shit could easily have come with a rule that states that if you turn your cam off while doing cop stuff you’re fired, but it didnt. Privacy in the bathroom is the excuse, not the reason. The reason is that cameras exonerate the innocent and impugn the guilty without regard to status or favor, and cops want to continue to break the law and hurt people who haven’t broken the law. They’re a street gang. There is no cop who enforces the law without fear or favor, there are only criminals and cops that ignore crime committed by people they like.
The ability to turn the cam off while you shit could easily have come with a rule that states that if you turn your cam off while doing cop stuff you’re fired, but it didnt.
Easy. If you turn off your cam, you’re not a cop anymore, you lose your legal powers.
Take a shit while turning off your cam? No problem, you don’t need to be a cop for that.
Shoot someone after “accidentally” turning your cam off? You just killed someone likely while trespassing with no qualified immunity. Enjoy prison.
Too bad. Make it part of what you sign up for when you become a cop. “You wanna be a cop? Well a few people may end up seeing you pee, just so you know that.”
There are people who have to piss into cups in front of people constantly. Surely that’s not an onerous demand to ensure the integrity of all bodycam footage. Who would ever see the raw uncut (lol) footage anyway? A jury maybe? in which case, blur out the dong. Easy.
I don’t know… I’m just not convinced by the “privacy” angle.
Edit: I guess other people’s privacy could be a concern. Though I bet AI is good enough that, if we really wanted to be honest about it (lol), we could figure out a way to filter other people out completely in a way that can be verified etc. etc. But that’ll never happen.
They don’t work for us anymore; they’re not “public servants.” They’re a (militarized) force that serves the interests of capital. They don’t defend people, they defend private property. That’s where the root of the problem lies. These people aren’t becoming cops to make the neighborhood they live in a safer place, most of the time they don’t even live in the neighborhood they serve. No, these people become cops because it lets them hurt people.
They’re just a gang of thugs that happens to serve the interests of those with the most money and power.
I don’t know. I hear the anger and I think there are some bad cops. But I think they are good ones out there. And they are people too. I can’t punish someone’s rights because of some assholes.
I hear what you are saying and there should be a way to handle it. I’m just not convinced that running them full time is the solution. Maybe limiting the turning off and if it’s done too many times in a row there is lockout and automatic reviews.
People always seem to forget the second half of the old saying about “bad apples.” The full phrase is, “a bad apple spoils the bunch.”
In other words, all it takes is one rotten person to bring an entire group down.
The shouldn’t be able to ever turn them off while they are working and if they do. Immediate suspension, second time formal inquiry, 3rd time he’s out in his ass.
I feel like you guys can’t even control your own police
I feel like you guys can’t even control your own police
Um. No. We absolutely cannot
You can tell…by the way that it is.
Cameron County prosecutors pushed for Class C felony charges of “terroristic threat” and argued for two more weeks of detention. Instead, Judge Adela Kowalski-Garza ordered a safety risk evaluation and conditional release home until his hearing November 8.
Prosecutors can go to hell. At least the judge wasn’t maximally evil.
The principal and police should be fired, barred from holding these kind of positions, and I don’t know made to do community service to make up for this huge harm.
I don’t know made to do community service to make up for this huge harm.
Maybe 3 days of solitary confinement would be appropriate. Seeing as a CHILD can do it they should be fine, right?
Judge isn’t a hero here either, should have put a stop to it as soon as the word "solitary’ was brought to their attention.
Cameron County prosecutors pushed for Class C felony charges of “terroristic threat” and argued for two more weeks of detention.
It’s important to note that they were arguing for additional punishment but they just sorta forgot about the part where they have to convict him of something first. This is America. This is conservatism. It’s force and violence as a response to inconvenience and discomfort. It’s absolute lawlessness.
Last summer, the current superintendent, René Gutiérrez, announced a shake-up in the leadership on several campuses. Canales Elementary, where Garza was principal for four years, was targeted as needing improvement, and Garza was reassigned to Palm Grove. The former counselor and principal at Palm Grove were transferred to Canales Elementary School.
Here we are. Head of a failing school gets her balls busted and a humiliating reassignment. Then some dweeb kid starts asking about the actually good teachers that got sent to fix her mess. Ego can’t take it. Got to destroy the kid. Fucking loser bullies.
The crime
On September 8, school administrators told Timothy that another student alleged that he made threats against Garza. Timothy denied the allegation, but Garza called law enforcement
This country sucks. This kid is being charged with terroristic threats after a school administrator terrorized and threatened him with the cold and callous police. All over a request to join a gifted students program. Now, he’s literally been terrorized into giving up? He’s “afraid” to speak up because of this?
as i understand this isn’t about his request to join gt, and he hasn’t given up. it’s because he asked what happened to the school counselor from the previous year (who helped him cope with his father’s death), and wrote three letters asking about uniform policy.
Police: Why people hate us so much, whelp?
Also Police:
This 11-year-old will grow up to be a doctor while this cop will continue to be a useless sack of shit to society.
Not with an arrest record at age 11. Medical school applications, state medical licenses, controlled substance prescription licenses, hospital credentialing applications, etc - all of the underlying bureaucracy of being a clinician (understandably) require background checks with clean records.
Unless his lawyer can get the record sealed and expunged, he’ll most likely have to explain this event at every turn. One would hope that juvenile records could be explained away, but the field is so competitive that it could very well be the thing that keeps him from pursuing his dream.
All because a shitbag principal didn’t want to deal with the requests of an 11 year old grieving his father and opportunistically punished him for it on the alleged word of another dumbass child’s idea of a practical joke.
Even if he actually said it - he’s an 11 year old, with a prefrontal cortex that is just starting to come online, on the hormonal cusp of puberty, trying to deal with the complex social dynamics of being 11 and changing schools, getting bullied about his haircut and clothes by a shitty adult abusing their authority.
I cant help but wonder how the situation would be if he was white.
Not that the rest of your comment isn’t valid about his developmental risks, but juvenile records aren’t public and I believe usually expunged when the kid turns 18.
That’s the way it should work. But my wife has something on her record from when she was a minor that was supposed to be expunged and sealed, but keeps popping up from time to time.
IANAL, but Texas Article 45.0218 would likely offer some protection to the kiddo since it’s a Class C Misdemeanor. The short of it is that being held or detained doesn’t mean that the individual was “prescribed jail time.”
However, since the Texas Observer is shamelessly plugging away and, as a result, search engines may recognize the child’s name, then the article (and similar “news” reports) will likely have more disastrous impacts than the actual event since the print industry is declining/desperate and the internet never forgets.
Not a lawyer either, but although I agree with that interpretation, I’m not sure where Class C Misdemeanor comes from.
The article states that:
Cameron County prosecutors pushed for Class C felony charges of “terroristic threat” and argued for two more weeks of detention. Instead, Judge Adela Kowalski-Garza ordered a safety risk evaluation and conditional release home until his hearing November 8.
I used your link to search for “terroristic threat,” and found this statute:
Penal Code Section 22.07 - Terroristic Threat
There is no mention of a Class C Misdemeanor in that statute; so I’m not sure what the Texas Observer is talking about.
Again, not a lawyer, but by my reading of 22.07, it seems like this ridiculous charge would be a Class A Misdemeanor under:
Subsection (a)(2):
(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to: … (2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury; …
With the penalty described in subsection ©(2):
© An offense under Subsection (a)(2) is a Class B misdemeanor, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if the offense: … (2) is committed against a public servant.
Class A misdemeanors carry both a fine up to $4000 and jail time up to 1 year.
TBH, I’m not sure if either of us (The Texas Observer and myself) know what we’re talking about. IIRC, Texas classifies felony charges as 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree offenses and Misdemeanors as Class A, B, or C by their severity.
The fact that they would consider it a “Felony”, or anything other than frivolous, is disheartening though I appreciate your efforts to research and correct any potential misinformation that I may have spouted. (Good catch, btw)
SMDH, Texas 🤷
Stop and think about this. The only evidence is hearsay. There is a long string of evidence of retaliation. What jury would actually convict this kid because of this? We don’t know that it actually happened. It could all be made up. The kid will walk, they will sue for enough money he will walk out of med school debt free.
You: “This 11-year-old will grow up”
The cops: “That’s where you’re wrong, buck-o…”
Hopefully leaving the state is an option.
Unfortunately I doubt that a single mother that has to rely on a court appointed attorney to defend against felony charges has the money to leave.
Depends if they have family out of state or if they’re tied to a job instate. Also, don’t discount the paternal side. Considering the father died, there’s no reason to believe that that side is cutoff. Too many variables to make assumptions.
And yeah, it’s hard to move, but it’s also hard getting harassed for years or even disappeared by the cops.
Only source I could find that didn’t give a really wide range says the average move costs $5000
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/data-2023-savings-report
55% of Americans would need to borrow to cover a right now emergency of $1000
Not if the justice system has anything to say about it
How big of a fucking dick do you have to be to make lies about an 11 year old and fuck up his future?!
His ordeal began five days later. In the late morning of September 8, Timothy was pulled out of music class and ushered into a room where he found Garza, Assistant Principal Michelle Saucedo, a district police officer, and a counselor sent from the district’s central administrative office. He was told another student had just reported that Timothy said he was planning to kill the principal. Rincon said she was called and rushed to the school but was not allowed to be in the room while Timothy was being questioned.
“When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”
Timothy told me he had explained to the school and district officials that the accusations were not true, that the only conversation he had that morning was with two other boys about wearing his sweater over his uniform.
Just read the whole article. It’s fucking astonishing how big of an ass these people are. Not only is the principal fucking ill but also the superintendent, principal, assistant principal, district counselor, and police officers.
I hope Timothy continues to speak up and reaches his goals to become an oncologist. I hope these fuckers learn from their mistakes and if not, hope they rot. Thanks Texas Observer for writing about this story.
If police turn their bodycams off then that should automatically disqualify their testimony and cause a major fine (which they would need to pay off personally)
I’m incoherent with anger about this one. Who treats a bright and hardworking fucking 11 year old like that? Over literally nothing but hearsay. No red flags, just some made up shit by Karen.
The taxpayer funded settlement which will come at no cost to the police department better be fucking huge. And when taxes go up to pay for it, folks better damn well remember why.
WTF is wrong with these people? I would come home to my family and apologize to them for our impending homelessness after I quit my job before I would do this to a child. And anyone who wouldn’t - yeah, they are fucking bastards.
Also, what adult bullies a kid who’s messed up because their parent just died of fucking cancer?!?
But instead of suspension, Garza summoned a police officer to arrest Timothy at school. In a video that Rincon shared with the Observer, Timothy puts his arms up on a wooden shelf and waits to be handcuffed as directed by a police officer.
These are adults who feel threatened by an eleven-year-old child, because he asked some questions. The entire country should be ridiculing them until they’re too embarrassed to leave their homes.
questioning authority is the biggest no no for conservative babies
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The kid needs a lawyer willing to crawl so far up there assess they can count their teeth from behind.
All this punishment on a smart kid who simply wanted to have a school councilor to talk to after he had lost his father to cancer.
This shitty principal should be fired and also investigated for false reporting. I’d be really interested to hear which student reported this boy for uttering a threat to kill the principal because it sounds more like the principal made this up to toss a kid in solitary confinement for a weekend to shut him up.
“Why are kids shooting up schools?” Well when a good student gets punished for asking for counseling due to the loss of a family member, and had the wherewithal to ask for help which he then is ultimately punished with psychological torture it becomes quite obvious.
That’s not why kids are shooting up schools.
“no you’re wrong” says nothing else. Wow now that’s what someone who doesn’t know anything sounds like to me. I literally just listened to an interview with a person who was planning a school shooting and he mentioned how he felt isolated and no one would help. He was lonely and needed people to talk to, so this situation exactly. But idk, If I’m wrong just respond with “you’re wrong” and nothing else.
Well sorry man but… You’re wrong.
I don’t make the rules. The other guy did.
Oh shit, you listened to an interview with someone who didn’t shoot up a school, that you give no further details on, while complaining about a lack of details?
You’re clearly the expert here, those people who killed all those kids must have been “good students who were punished for asking for counselling”.
Because if I was right, surely I would have listed every single school shooting and the known motivations behind them.
Or did you want every single school shooting wrapped up in a neat little bundle with a single cause?
You: Gives zero info to back up ur claim
Me: Provides an example to backup my claim
You: Psh whatever, that only one source, also what did u want from me, more than zero sources?
What is it man? Did I not provide enough information, or is asking for information to much? Because I’m the only one that made an argument that didn’t sound like a mindless dipshit.
Keep going. If that’s why people shoot up schools, you should be able to provide clear examples of it for multiple school shootings.
Don’t worry if you can’t. After all, it’s only murdered children so it’s no big deal to just bullshit about the motivations.
Yeah kids only shoot up heroin
