No, this is fantasy. I’m not hand waiving anything, you’re parroting unsubstantiated claims. Stories like kidnapping children are especially unsubstantiated.
The war will end when Ukraine concedes. No matter how much materiel NATO donates, it cannot win, and the war is increasingly unpopular.
Reports from Ukrainian intelligence, sure, not actual verified proof of erasing Ukrainian identity nor of kidnapping. Do you just trust Israel whenever it claims Hamas is torturing babies? Did you believe the story about Saddam’s forces removing babies from incubators? You need verified proof before belief.
Fair. It just feels like you are leaping to their defence.
Putin has stated numerous times though that he considers Ukraine to be Russian and downplays their national identity. And go back enough in history and you do see a pattern.
There is a degree of that, but often it’s overplayed by pro-Ukrainian people to the degree that they believe Russia is trying to ethnically cleanse Ukraine, which is wrong, and is purely justification for continuing an unpopular war that the west uses to damage Russia and carve Ukraine out for resources.
No, I’m not parroting fantastical claims, nor am I paid to have a sober analysis of the Russo-Ukrainian War. You cannot say the same for me. Ukraine should concede (as they should have done when they had the chance a few months into the war) because they can’t win, and all they are doing is getting more of themselves killed. That’s why the war is increasingly unpopular, and Kiev relies on forced conscription.
I’m repeating analysis even agreed upon by western sources, you’re repeating far-right propaganda and talking points. The difference between the settler-colonial genocide of Palestine and the Russo-Ukrainian War is that Israel intends to exterminate all of Palestine, and must to complete their settler-colonial project, while Russia only wants the 4 oblasts, which are already pro-Russian (that’s why Kiev has been bombing them for a decade). If Palestine surrenders, they die, if Ukraine surrenders then the war ends and the Donbass region joins Russia like they want to.
No, this is fantasy. I’m not hand waiving anything, you’re parroting unsubstantiated claims. Stories like kidnapping children are especially unsubstantiated.
The war will end when Ukraine concedes. No matter how much materiel NATO donates, it cannot win, and the war is increasingly unpopular.
https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/world-news/ukrainian-intelligence-identified-locations-of-339-abducted-children-and-compiling-list-of-russians-responsible-tried-to-erase-their-identities/
I bet you will claim this is lies.
Reports from Ukrainian intelligence, sure, not actual verified proof of erasing Ukrainian identity nor of kidnapping. Do you just trust Israel whenever it claims Hamas is torturing babies? Did you believe the story about Saddam’s forces removing babies from incubators? You need verified proof before belief.
You trust everything Russia says though.
No, I don’t. I trust some things that can be factually verified, but I take nothing either side says at face value.
And yet, your opinion is Russia are valiant saviours coming to free Russian speaking Ukrainians, and not the systematic destruction of Ukraine.
I’ve never once said either of those, because both are wrong.
Fair. It just feels like you are leaping to their defence.
Putin has stated numerous times though that he considers Ukraine to be Russian and downplays their national identity. And go back enough in history and you do see a pattern.
There is a degree of that, but often it’s overplayed by pro-Ukrainian people to the degree that they believe Russia is trying to ethnically cleanse Ukraine, which is wrong, and is purely justification for continuing an unpopular war that the west uses to damage Russia and carve Ukraine out for resources.
Hers a simple google search for you. Many sources.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+children+kidnapped&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb#ip=1
the Wikipedia link, yourself having linked Wikipedia earlier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war
With the United Nations stating this is a war crime
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64985009
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiukraine/A_HRC_52_62_AUV_EN.pdf
Tangential to this, I quite enjoy this young man’s recount of the conflict https://youtu.be/jlTnKYTxWOY
But I bet this is all “right wing propaganda” somehow.
I can say the same for you.
Are you in Russias pocket to be parroting their fantastical claims?
Why should Ukraine concede?
No, I’m not parroting fantastical claims, nor am I paid to have a sober analysis of the Russo-Ukrainian War. You cannot say the same for me. Ukraine should concede (as they should have done when they had the chance a few months into the war) because they can’t win, and all they are doing is getting more of themselves killed. That’s why the war is increasingly unpopular, and Kiev relies on forced conscription.
Yes, you are. You just don’t see it apparently. You are repeating talking points from right wing Russia aligned media.
What is your opinion on the Israeli invasion of Palestine? Should Palestine just cede Gaza to end the war?
I’m repeating analysis even agreed upon by western sources, you’re repeating far-right propaganda and talking points. The difference between the settler-colonial genocide of Palestine and the Russo-Ukrainian War is that Israel intends to exterminate all of Palestine, and must to complete their settler-colonial project, while Russia only wants the 4 oblasts, which are already pro-Russian (that’s why Kiev has been bombing them for a decade). If Palestine surrenders, they die, if Ukraine surrenders then the war ends and the Donbass region joins Russia like they want to.