London set for massive pro-Palestinian protest demanding Gaza ceasefire - eviltoast
  • atyaz@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    When have Palestinians invaded Israeli land? Israelis are still creating illegal settlements right now.

    But more importantly, this genocide is not a two way street. There are terrorist attacks but that pales in comparison to an all out genocide. When have Palestinians leveled whole neighborhoods or dropped chemical weapons on people? Israelis are determined to kill or at least displace the millions of remaining Palestinians and it’s disingenuous to say that’s the same thing the Palestinians are doing.

    • goat@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      When have Palestinians invaded Israeli land?

      During the many times the Arab League declared war. They lost though, which is why they’ve been limited to Gaza and West bank.

      But more importantly, this genocide is not a two way street. There are terrorist attacks but that pales in comparison to an all out genocide. When have Palestinians leveled whole neighborhoods or dropped chemical weapons on people? Israelis are determined to kill or at least displace the millions of remaining Palestinians and it’s disingenuous to say that’s the same thing the Palestinians are doing.

      It very much is. The situation in Palestine and Israel has always been very back and forth, with terrorist attacks from both sides, military strikes into each other’s territories, the deaths of innocent civilians, such and such. No one is a saint here, except for those caught in the crossfire.

      • Gazumi@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        The Arab league time point conveniently ignores the prior land incursions into Palestine. It is like a climate change denier arguing based upon a limited or specific time bound period. Not t9 mention that Israel has consistently mentioned pushing the Palestinians into the sea. An extremist Right Wing party in charge is exactly what we see leading to the inhumane mass murders. No different to Bosnia

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          And ignoring the Arab League point is also conveniently ignoring Russia, France and Britain occupying Palestine, as well as the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and WW1. Though, I’m not going to insult you for that, since that’s against the rules.

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            I agree. The point we start is with the post war determination of “A people without a land and a land without a people”. We collectively created the issue. Israel will never return to its original boundaries, but we are responsible for their expansion to date and we are currently supporting them in their current assaults.

            • goat@sh.itjust.works
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              1 year ago

              I think Israel should stop their settlement expansions into the west bank. But the land lost by Palestine and the Arab League during the wars should remain as Israel’s–such is war.

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      1 year ago

      Bro, it was Iraq Lebanon Syria Yemen and friends who literally drove their Jews to Israel as refuges of genocides.

      If you don’t consider them Palastinians that’s fine.

      Palastinians regularly invade Israel with rockets and have also done so with suicide bombings and shooting and knifing etc. and sadly on the 7th with something much more horrible than anything of earlier levels.

      Yes, some Israelis are creating illegal settlements, but they’re not condoned by Israel and are taken down.

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        Yes, some Israelis are creating illegal settlements, but they’re not condoned by Israel and are taken down.

        What the fuck? What the action fuck? Just… Look things up before commenting, man.

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          1 year ago

          I live in Israel. It’s entirely possible you and I don’t agree on what an illegal settlement is. But you are welcome to provide the reading material you mentioned…

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            1 year ago

            Settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law. Also even taking the Israeli definition, outposts are only sometimes removed, are sometimes retroactively legalized and many are provided security by the IDF.