It’s an Absolutely Terrifying Night in Gaza Right Now - eviltoast

Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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    1 year ago

    So you also agree that Israel should immediately cease the siege of Gaza and look toward a diplomatic solution that aims to heal both parties loss. Perhaps a brokered peace and lasting agreement by a neutral 3rd party to finally solve all disputes? I think that’s a wonderful idea.

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      1 year ago

      While Hamas ceases fire and releases all hostages unconditionally at the same time of course. sounds like a splendid idea.

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        I believe that’s on the table

        Speaking at the United Nations, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Hamas is ready to release hostages on the condition that 6,000 Palestinians, who are currently in Israeli jails, are released as well.
        “According to our negotiations, Hamas is ready to release civilian prisoners. On the other hand, the world should support the release of 6,000 Palestinians held in Israeli prisons,” he told a meeting of the 193-member General Assembly on the Middle East on Thursday.

        Probably not the preferred outcome, but it stops the killing now

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          That’s not an unconditional release of the hostages - so it’s very unlikely to happen.

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            There can’t be „justice“ for things from the past. Everyone has to heal and make amends. You have to look into the future, so both sides learn to coexist.

            Your statement doesn’t jive then.

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              You make exaggerated statements, by driving arguments to their most extreme (full amends and healing has to happen INSTANTLY/NOW), to pretend that an argument is invalid.

              The healing and making amends is a process that will take years, if not a decade.

              Israel will not give in to Hamas demands that stemmed from the October 7 terror attack. This would show EVERY Terror Organization that terror against civilians indeed pays very well.

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                Don’t act like you care about the lives being erased by the bombs then man. We didn’t have to have this conversation. You were the one who wanted to act like you cared now and not in years, if not a decade.

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                  You don’t want to contribute to a meaningful discussion and are only virtue signaling to your Hamas Fanboys that cheer you on. You are only here to WIN a discussion, not take part in it. There is no value talking to the likes of you. So keep on with your little circlejerk here.

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        Your right, better to just keep bombing. I meant it more as the neutral party decides but both sides agree up front to abide by the terms of the agreement and have no say in how that neutral party decides. Perhaps protection guarantees are made and loss of claims imposed on any further hostilities?

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          The UNIFIL (neutral peace keeping force) exists in Lebanon since 1978 - and didn’t prevent Hezbollah from becoming the most capable non-government actor in the region, which launches AT missiles on Israeli northern border every single day. Tell us more about neutral parties…

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            Pack it up everyone. Anything that hasn’t gone right before in the past, means nothing, no matter how different, could ever succeed in the future. Not like there’s any ethnic cleansing or genocides to look back on. Better get going with this totally original “Gaza Remodel”

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              Just saying that the suggestion for third party peace keeping force is a bit idealistic, and doesn’t have a good track record. So there has to be another way.

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            If it’s a single country? Maybe Iceland just off the top of the head? I feel like they would do their best to listen to everyone and go over all the data.

            Maybe some sort of neutral council that expressly uses smaller, non dominate countries, that could vote in secrecy and be protected from the wishes of the international super powers.

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                Why the hell are you sending me some guys yuk yuk eli5 take on the situation? Were talking about people here man. I give no shits what Hamas has to say and no shits what Bibi has to say. Hence, neutral 3rd party and binding agreement with no taksey backseys.

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                    it’s called reforms man. Do you think all the people that fought in all the wars of “great and powerful enemies” just went on to loot and plunder the world after the conflicts ended? That these irredeemable souls beyond help had to be liquidated or chained up in a cell? They just went home. Or they went to prison. It gets sorted out. That’s literally how a justice system and reformation works.

                    Germany and Japan were considered to be literal monsters and now are some of the most respected countries in the world. It doesn’t happen overnight, but that’s what happens when you give people a path to walk and a future to look forward to that isn’t “die in Gaza prison”

                    Have the U.N. come in, hold the ceasefire on both sides and create space for those people to hold new elections once they can breath for a minute. It’s not rocket science.