you can't make the system better by voting. our rights were taken by force, not given to us willingly. - eviltoast
  • brax@sh.itjust.works
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    8 days ago

    Which means more time to make it better. I would rather have things fall apart in pieces instead of collapsing as a whole

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        7 days ago

        So you’re telling me you’d rather your entire house fall to dust, than for parts of your house to fall apart over time so you have time to build it up better? That’s a really weird take.

          • TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 days ago

            Reformism is a thing, but of course it loses all credibility when the only longterm vision it’s serving is ”slowing collapse somewhat”.

            As an outsider, it’s fascinating how mainstream US politics today largely divides into Trumpian accelerationism and Dick Cheney allies that are appalled that a lot of other people can’t envision victory by rallying behind the corporate sponsored candidate of the Dick Cheney party, which is also promising to destroy the world, albeit in a slower and more controlled way that is less disruptive to big business. Fuck anyone that has different ideas, it’s all about ”winning” here and now, even if it’s not really winning. And there’s always only the here and now, because there’s always a new Trump waiting around the next corner. Just like in most other countries.

            Both of those ”sides” – internationally – have killed reformism as a viable political project, neither of them support gradual alignment of wealth and power with a popular majority.

    • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 days ago

      People said this in 2020 as well, that we should vote for Biden and organize, and then people just didn’t organize.

      The problem with the slow collapse is that it frustrates people, and pushes them to vote for the alternative.