quick reminder - eviltoast
  • Lucane360@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    No you can’t own a platform like youtube or facebook, but you could make content on it, intellectul propriety is not a thing as you don’t have to produce art just to get a monetary return, but just because you enjoy doing so, there’s no need of a stock market in an ideal communist world because everyone gets what they need based on what they can provide, but if it’s just a country i guess it’s the government who takes care of it.

    Regarding those 5 countries i’m not sure of every one of them, but talking about China as you said it’s not a communist country but it is not a dictatorship of the proletarian either, as it’s not the proletarian class nor their democratically elected representatives who govern the country.

    In the end i’ll add that greed is not more “human nature” that wishing to kill someone annoying.

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      1 year ago

      We didn’t own Reddit’s platform, but we made content and engagement for that community anyway.

      That worked out awesome. Let’s scale it up to an entire society.

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      1 year ago

      Give me an example of a communist country that has not resulted in the creation of an authoritarian government.

      • nautical2975@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Capitalism is an authoritarian, both liberal and conservative wants capitalism, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. You don’t have choices.

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        Give me an example of any single communist country with an authoritarian government

        And note that what I just asked for is like asking for a sandwich without bread

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        1 year ago

        You’re not wrong, but also give me an example of ANY country that doesn’t resort to authoritarianism when the government is threatened by a plurality of citizens.

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          There are plenty of governments out there that aren’t authoritarian. What do you mean when you say “the government is threatened by a plurality of citizens?” What is the nature of the threat in question? A democratically-elected government that puts down an armed rebellion from part of its populace doesn’t magically become authoritarian simply because it used forced to maintain its existence in response to a domestic threat.

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            I mean that there is a realistic existential threat placed on the system of government, by a large part of the population. By plurality, I mean that the largest segment of a population (even if it’s not a majority).

            You’re telling me that govt’s that put down a large rebellion don’t then start introducing authoritan laws like monitoring communication, restricting free speech, and targeting non-violent sympathizers?

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          1 year ago

          …any democracy? Different governments get voted out of power constantly. A lot of countries elections are almost 50/50

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            1 year ago

            I would say you’re arguing from ignorance then. The civil war in America happened because slavers didn’t like the outcome of an election.

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              They asked for an example of ANY country that doesn’t resort to authoritarianism when the government is threatened by a plurality of citizens. You can choose any currently functioning democracy after a tight election.

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                The question becomes then, are those stable democracies threatened? I would argue no, that you’re using irrelevant examples to prove your position.

                American capitalism was threatened to an extent by Bernie’s campaign and a contemporary cnn headline compared his “rise” to that of Hitler. So you tell me. Do they get defensive when actual leftist principles are on the line. Looks to me that it is the case.

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                  1 year ago

                  Ukrainian stable democracy seems very threatened at the moment. I am not too into American politics so i dont know about the Bernie situation.