Because the west installed a far right proxy regime in Ukraine that has literal fascists in the government and the military. One has to be utterly ignorant not to be aware of this fact given that it’s been widely reported in western media:
They glorify Nazi SS collaborators, they have actual Nazis like Azov Battalion, Right Sector, etc in their military, who also use Nazi symbols and imagery, I honestly could go on
You could just look up Stepan Bandera and that’ll give you what you need
Dude really cited the Kuomintang as evidence of the current Chinese government being Nazi collaborators. I guess One China policy goes pretty far, huh?
I am an in absolute awe of the level of historical illiteracy you just demonstrated. What’s it like to go through life with absolutely no understanding of the world? Just thinking whatever the news tells you to think. An absolutely smooth, perfectly frictionless brain existing in an informational vacuum.
Did you even read the wikipedia article you linked me? Just the first paragraph should be enough. Here, I’ll post it so you don’t even have to click the link and I’ll also bold the parts of this wikipedia article that you should have read.
Nazi Germany and the Nationalist government of the Republic of China maintained bilateral relations between 1933 and 1941. The Chinese Nationalists sought German military and economic support to help them consolidate control over factional warlords and resist Japanese imperialism. Germany sought raw materials such as tungsten and antimony from China. During the mid-1930s, thousands of Chinese soldiers were trained by German officers and German economic investment made its way into China. However, Joachim von Ribbentrop strongly favored an alliance with Japan over one with China, and starting with the 1935 Anti-Comintern Pact, Germany began to realign its East Asia policy. After Japan invaded China in 1937 and Ribbentrop became Foreign Minister the following year, German aid to China was cut off. In July 1941, Nazi Germany severed relations with Nationalist China and transferred their recognition to the Japanese-controlled Wang Jingwei regime. Nonetheless, China did not officially declare war on the Axis Powers until after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Surely even in your liberal bubble you should have known that both China and Taiwan both consider themselves as the real China. You couldn’t have looked up which was which? For the other links, the amazon book synopsis is in Chinese and plugging it into google translate is hard, so I’ll forgive you for not doing that. But why didn’t you at least look at the title of the book and see that it mentioned Republican China. That should have tickled a neuron in your brain. The other books is just flat out about the adopted son of Chiang Kai-shek, the leader of Nationalist China. One of the pictures even mentions him being in the post-war Taiwan military.
The rest of your links at least are about the correct China. I’m not going to bother reading them as you obviously just gave me the first six links you found on google without bothering to read them yourself or understand their historical context. I do hope that you read the links that you sent me and come to the correct conclusion that the Taiwan (Republic of China) was a Nazi-collaborationist state and is still friendly with the US to this day. That should put you on the right track to understanding why China (People’s Republic of China) is in the right today.
No, you don’t understand, when arguing in liberal democracies, the more links you have the more right you are, and the person with the most links to anything wins regardless .
I am 100% certain you searched for these sources when confronted just now. Because you have not read these. The book you linked with a synopsis in Chinese is not even on topic. What the fuck did you think you had with that one? Thought the Chinese synopsis would add some extra weight but you don’t even know what the ROC is? Embarrassing. Like so bad holy shit.
Because they’re not idiots. They have no interest in emboldening the US empire and weakening their Russian ally. In a hypothetical scenario where the US win in Ukraines, it is likely that a comprador regime reminiscent of the Yeltzin dictatorship would be installed in Russia which would be a national security disaster for China.
Also, since China is not ruled by idiots, they realise that the Kiev government has no viable way to victory and that prolonging the war doesn’t support Ukraine but only leads to more death and destruction.
I’m sure the Ukrainian offensive will start any day now. They just have to kick in the door and the whole rotted structure will collapse.
And then I’m sure the idiots ruling China will collapse the country in the next year. Western media has been saying it’s poised to collapse next year for 20 years, but I’m sure they’re right this time.
The Global South doesn’t support Ukraine. Regardless of what politicians say, it’s just good policy to not antagonize the countries for which trade with you is growing in the double digits annually.
The current global stage is dominated by the attempt of historical centers of imperialism (the U.S., Western and Central Europe, Japan—hereafter called “the Triad”) to maintain their exclusive control over the planet through a combination of:
so-called neo-liberal economic globalization policies allowing financial transnational capital of the Triad to decide alone on all issues in their exclusive interests;
the military control of the planet by the U.S. and its subordinate allies (NATO and Japan) in order to annihilate any attempt by any country not of the Triad to move out from under their yoke.
In that respect all countries of the world not of the Triad are enemies or potential enemies, except those who accept complete submission to the economic and political strategy of the Triad… In that frame Russia is “an enemy.”
After the breakdown of the Soviet system, some people (in Russia in particular) thought that the “West” would not antagonize a “capitalist Russia”—just as Germany and Japan had “lost the war but won the peace.” They forgot that the Western powers supported the reconstruction of the former fascist countries precisely to face the challenge of the independent policies of the Soviet Union. Now, this challenge having disappeared, the target of the Triad is complete submission, to destroy the capacity of Russia to resist.
The current development of the Ukraine tragedy illustrates the reality of the strategic target of the Triad.
The Triad organized in Kiev what ought to be called a “Euro/Nazi putsch.” To achieve their target (separating the historical twin sister nations—the Russian and the Ukrainian), they needed the support of local Nazis.
The rhetoric of the Western medias, claiming that the policies of the Triad aim at promoting democracy, is simply a lie. Nowhere has the Triad promoted democracy. On the contrary these policies have systematically been supporting the most anti-democratic (in some cases “fascist”) local forces. Quasi-fascist in the former Yugoslavia—in Croatia and Kosovo—as well as in the Baltic states and Eastern Europe, Hungary for instance. Eastern Europe has been “integrated” in the European Union not as equal partners, but as “semi-colonies” of major Western and Central European capitalist/imperialist powers. The relation between West and East in the European system is in some degree similar to that which rules the relations between the U.S. and Latin America! In the countries of the South the Triad supported the extreme anti-democratic forces such as, for instance, ultra-reactionary political Islam and, with their complicity, has destroyed societies; the cases of Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya illustrate these targets of the Triad imperialist project.
Therefore the policy of Russia (as developed by the administration of Putin) to resist the project of colonization of Ukraine (and of other countries of the former Soviet Union, in Transcaucasia and Central Asia) must be supported. The Baltic states’ experience should not be repeated. The target of constructing a “Eurasian” community, independent from the Triad and its subordinate European partners, is also to be supported.
Why is China not supporting Ukraine? OP answer this honestly.
Because the west installed a far right proxy regime in Ukraine that has literal fascists in the government and the military. One has to be utterly ignorant not to be aware of this fact given that it’s been widely reported in western media:
Cause they’re Nazis
You think current Ukraine gov is Nazi? Could you explain?
It was like a month ago that Zelenskyy honored a waffen SS soldier as a hero of Ukraine lol
They glorify Nazi SS collaborators, they have actual Nazis like Azov Battalion, Right Sector, etc in their military, who also use Nazi symbols and imagery, I honestly could go on
You could just look up Stepan Bandera and that’ll give you what you need
And you think china is different from that? Same shit just in a different political spectrum.
Can you give us any examples of China honoring members of the Waffen SS?
No! First you have to read this long list of links from highly questionable sources which themselves contain no citations or evidence!
Projection
Read this first https://medium.com/doublethinklab/analysis-how-ukraine-has-been-nazifized-in-chinese-information-space-81ce236f6a55
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/12/nazi-china-communists-carl-schmitt/617237/
http://www.shanghai1937.com/a-chinese-in-the-german-wehrmacht/
https://www.amazon.com/Germany-Republican-China-William-Kirby/dp/0804712093
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020142101/http:/www.thechinastory.org/2015/10/carl-schmitt-in-china/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–Nazi_Germany_relations
Dude really cited the Kuomintang as evidence of the current Chinese government being Nazi collaborators. I guess One China policy goes pretty far, huh?
I am an in absolute awe of the level of historical illiteracy you just demonstrated. What’s it like to go through life with absolutely no understanding of the world? Just thinking whatever the news tells you to think. An absolutely smooth, perfectly frictionless brain existing in an informational vacuum.
Did you even read the wikipedia article you linked me? Just the first paragraph should be enough. Here, I’ll post it so you don’t even have to click the link and I’ll also bold the parts of this wikipedia article that you should have read.
Surely even in your liberal bubble you should have known that both China and Taiwan both consider themselves as the real China. You couldn’t have looked up which was which? For the other links, the amazon book synopsis is in Chinese and plugging it into google translate is hard, so I’ll forgive you for not doing that. But why didn’t you at least look at the title of the book and see that it mentioned Republican China. That should have tickled a neuron in your brain. The other books is just flat out about the adopted son of Chiang Kai-shek, the leader of Nationalist China. One of the pictures even mentions him being in the post-war Taiwan military.
The rest of your links at least are about the correct China. I’m not going to bother reading them as you obviously just gave me the first six links you found on google without bothering to read them yourself or understand their historical context. I do hope that you read the links that you sent me and come to the correct conclusion that the Taiwan (Republic of China) was a Nazi-collaborationist state and is still friendly with the US to this day. That should put you on the right track to understanding why China (People’s Republic of China) is in the right today.
Lmao reading is truly the enemy of liberalism.
No, you don’t understand, when arguing in liberal democracies, the more links you have the more right you are, and the person with the most links to anything wins regardless
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I am 100% certain you searched for these sources when confronted just now. Because you have not read these. The book you linked with a synopsis in Chinese is not even on topic. What the fuck did you think you had with that one? Thought the Chinese synopsis would add some extra weight but you don’t even know what the ROC is? Embarrassing. Like so bad holy shit.
Okay, can you give us examples of China honoring SS members
Because they’re not idiots. They have no interest in emboldening the US empire and weakening their Russian ally. In a hypothetical scenario where the US win in Ukraines, it is likely that a comprador regime reminiscent of the Yeltzin dictatorship would be installed in Russia which would be a national security disaster for China.
Also, since China is not ruled by idiots, they realise that the Kiev government has no viable way to victory and that prolonging the war doesn’t support Ukraine but only leads to more death and destruction.
You got me in the first half ngl
I’m sure the Ukrainian offensive will start any day now. They just have to kick in the door and the whole rotted structure will collapse.
And then I’m sure the idiots ruling China will collapse the country in the next year. Western media has been saying it’s poised to collapse next year for 20 years, but I’m sure they’re right this time.
The Global South doesn’t support Ukraine. Regardless of what politicians say, it’s just good policy to not antagonize the countries for which trade with you is growing in the double digits annually.
https://mronline.org/2022/05/07/russia-and-the-ukraine-crisis-the-eurasian-project-in-conflict-with-the-triad-imperialist-policies/