U.S. officials privately warn Israel to show restraint in retaliating against Hamas - eviltoast

In meetings in Israel, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin conveyed to Israeli leaders that it’s important to observe international rules of warfare.

As Israel girds for a fearsome ground assault into Gaza, senior Biden administration officials are warning their Israeli counterparts to show restraint and avoid mass civilian casualties and a humanitarian disaster that could turn world opinion against the Jewish state, according to two current and one former U.S. official.

  • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    No, I think that if Trump gets re-elected, then you are partly responsible.

    If Trump is not re-elected, then you’re not responsible for anything except being rude.

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      You chose to respond, and then started playing little semantic word games over a hypothetical scenario regarding my hypothetical vote that I haven’t even cast yet.

      So, yeah, I came at you because you came at me first. Don’t like it? Then keep your opinions to yourself I guess…

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        You were rude before I entered the conversation. I’m here to support the person you rudely responded to. Are you suggesting that you are entitled to be rude whenever people with disagree with you?

        And this is not a “semantic word game”. People like you were actually responsible for the actual, non-hypothetical, election of Trump in 2016. If he is re-elected, then people like you will again be responsible.

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          I’m entitled to speak my mind, and defend my position. You want to play the victim, and act offended after voluntarily entering a conversation.

          People like you were actually responsible for the actual, non-hypothetical, election of Trump in 2016.

          No, it was because Hillary Clinton was a historically bad candidate that enough voters didn’t like, trust, or identify with. But go off 🤴, keep blaming the people in this country for the failings and entitlement of the political class while they continue selling us out by making people pick between the lesser of two evils.

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            Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate and people like you are responsible for electing Trump. Both are true.

            Just as it is true both that Obama was a good candidate and that people like me are responsible for electing him.

            Choosing between flawed candidates is what democracy is all about. Always has been.

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              I’m surprised you can reach your keyboard from up there on your high horse. I voted for Hillary Clinton even though I didn’t trust her, and knew she was a chicken hawk. So shut your fucking mouth about me doing shit to get Trump elected.

              I knew he was dangerous from day one while Hillary and the DNC were the ones PROPPING HIM UP AS A JOKE CANDIDATE. Well who’s laughing now? Please keep blaming me for shit I had nothing to do with you fucking pussy. Fuck you.

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                As I said, people like you are responsible for electing Trump in 2016. Back then apparently you were wiser than now.

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                  The people who VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP are exclusively responsible for ELECTING DONALD TRUMP.

                  “People like you” are the reason why there are so many apathetic voters in this country. They are are tired of being guilted or shamed into voting for terrible candidates simply to keep things from devolving into a fascist or Christian nationalist hellscape and then being ragged on by “People like you” for daring to eat that bucket of shit without sticking a smile on their face in the process.

                  See, we can both use weasel words. 😘

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                    Nobody is asking you to smile.

                    You can choose to keep things from devolving into a fascist or Christian nationalist hellscape, or choose to do nothing and let the world burn. Either way it’s your choice, and don’t be surprised when anyone holds you responsible for that choice.

                    You’re a grown-up who has seen how actual democracies function in the real world, so you should know by now that waiting for a unicorn to vote for is the equivalent to doing nothing.

                    And for everyone who is “guilting and shaming” you, there are five others who are intentionally pointing out the faults in candidates because they want you to walk away.

                    Our outrage-obsessed media is designed to make you feel bad about whoever you vote for. Case in point: the media made you believe Biden “publicly supports ethnic cleansing”.