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Please don’t stop talking about Palestine.
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I managed to go to a protest. It was kind of an accident. I suspected something might be planned and went to the time, on the day, and to the place that protests usually happen. Maybe 200+ people there. Half dressed in Palestine flags. Speeches. Poetry. Songs. Messages passed from relatives in Palestine to share with us.
I’ve been tearing up reading about it all this week. But in person? It was more uplifting than sad. Seeing so many people willing to spend their weekend doing this.
I completely agree, Crit. There’s a good reason they don’t want us to go outside and connect with others, to see that we stand on the side of humanity and that history will prove us right yet again.
The interesting thing was that the police were clearly supportive. I was a bit surprised to see them nodding along with the talks. They didn’t join in the songs and the chanting. But from conversations I overheard, they were supportive. I joined a bit late so stood to one side and I also heard ‘ordinary’ passers by – you know, people who aren’t engaged enough with politics to join a protest – walking past and talking about how bad things were for Palestinians. Seemed like almost everyone walking past was appalled at Israel.
The public stands with Palestine and they know they’re being duped by the press. It lifted my mood significantly because all week I’d been given the impression from the silence of colleagues, my institution, my union, and the noise from the media that I was rather alone. Not so.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
I have a feeling that they aren’t going to be in the job for much longer, then.
It was a strange atmosphere to be sure. There weren’t many police, either. Not for 200 or more people. I’ve seen more police at a party. I think for all the mouth-frothing in the media, the government isn’t actually that worried about Palestinian protesters causing trouble. Maybe it’s different in major cities. Almost certainly is. Like, I said, strange atmosphere.
How in the world is the public supportive of Palestine? If they aren’t supportive of communism and general anti-imperialism/anti-colonialism, how are they supportive of Palestine?
We cannot allow Amerikan “news” media to dictate to us where the masses are at. Zionist outlets want us to believe that the Amerikan masses are on board with ethnic cleansing writ large.
I know otherwise reactionary people – coworkers, customers, etc. – who loathe the state of Israel for what it is doing. News media would have us believe that these otherwise reactionary folk are anti-Israel merely because they are antisemitic or some other such hogwash.
This is a litmus test for basic human empathy, and I think more people are passing than failing. The Amerikan news empire does not reflect the will or the ideas of the people, it attempts to shape them. By virtue of their class interests, bourgeois “journalists” are always tailing us and tailing workers.
Anti-imperialist journalists and their outlets like Abby Martin (Empire Files), Brian Becker (The Socialist Program), SomeMoreNews, MintPress News, Multipolarista, and more, are gaining traction and have been for a while. Paywalls and opaque anti-worker rhetoric are making rags like WaPo obsolete to the masses.
We also can’t use astroturfed hellsites like Reddit to guage where people are at. Contrariwise, we shouldn’t necessarily use anecdotal grass-touching evidence as indicative of a larger trend, either. My experience on the ground has been far more akin to comrade @redtea@lemmygrad.ml than bearing witness to the countrywide cavalcade of [proletarian] Zionist warriors Western news media typically wants us to believe exists, though.
the situation in gaza is so precarious and israel commit so many crimes that is very hard to wash everything, so there is that notion that israel isn’t so nice, free and democratic so to speak
It’s the impression I got. Maybe it depends where you are. A segment of the Imperial core supports Israel, I know. But a significant section seems to be aghast at the idea of cutting of water and electricity to civilians and so many children. Okay, that horror might not manifest as outright support for Palestinians liberating themselves. Libs are gonna lib, after all. But the mood definitely feels like it’s leaning more towards Palestine than Israel where I am. I do think people feel scared to express whatever support there is, though.