It’s just too expensive to save the planet. I’m glad that our governments were making the tough Choices, to continue burning coal and other fossil fuels because the economy just couldn’t handle the burden of not growing by another 5% every year.
That’s a fair complaint for developed countries, but I feel like it’s less fair for developing countries where each point of GDP growth has a tangible effect on poverty rates, education, health, economic mobility, and overall wellbeing. Hell, an increase in economic resources will probably even offset the decrease in crop yield from climate change. For countries that are still developing, these things improve the lives of citizens more than the impact of climate change would hurt them.
Living in a developed country, we have a disproportionate responsibility for both reducing our own emissions and developing the technology and infrastructure to reduce emissions for everyone else. We should have led the charge towards ever cheaper solar and ever cheaper wind. We should have given the world clean and cheap technologies they can use to fuel their industrialization to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels. We haven’t, but looking towards the future there’s still a lot we can do.
Remember that you can influence global emissions far more than by bringing your personal emissions down to zero.
Yes, exactly, the developed world should aid the developing world as much as possible in providing them clean technologies.
We are rich enough. We can afford that. And we all benefit in the end (because, after all, a lot of our supplies originate from developing countries).
Yep just raise everyone’s taxes in the EU and US/Canada and give it to everybody else, sounds awesome.
It does! I want to be taxed more to help others in need, and for the betterment of all.
Sadly, we have to fight a pretty big portion of our population that got that “fuck you got mine” attitude.
Then donate your money to a worthy cause.
I already do, but that’s completely missing the point.
Donating isn’t enough to solve the issue, and, moreover, it puts all of the onus on the good-willed people, which is just super convenient for you, isn’t it?
No, everyone needs to contribute to a better future. Such economic individualism is what caused these problems in the first place.
I give more to charity in both time and money than you ever have, I guarantee it. Take your assumptions and pound sand.
None of the countries historically responsible for the most CO2 emissions is growing at anywhere near 5%. If anything, we’re burning our only home for 1% year on year.
Also worth remembering that governments are subsidizing the fossil fuel industry. What should happen is that this industry should be nationalized and the profits should be used to build out clean energy infrastructure.
The oil industry is on its death bed so I’m not against what you’re saying, but we’re currently subsidizing the green energy sector (a good thing) with nothing in return (a bad thing).
We should look to how Norway avoided Dutch Disease and taxed the hell out of private oil extraction. They subsidise the discovery (the risky part) and then slap a very heavy tax on the oil those companies then extract and sell, all the while having a national oil company they have to compete with it (crucial to keep oil expertise within the government).
Norway already taxes private wind energy and hydropower, because they know the oil industry will be dethroned by the green energy industry soon and don’t want to simply subsidize their profits. Norway also owns wind energy both domestically and in other countries (hilariously, they own more UK wind energy than the UK government itself does), and massive amounts of their domestic hydropower.
I am so glad the shareholders got their money!
Just imagine some rich people didn’t get more rich, just stayed as rich as they were, so we could “save the planet”. Disgusting!
Had the misfortune of listening to State Department and White House policy ghouls talk to a class recently. They don’t believe moving to less fossil fuels quickly is viable because we’d become “dangerously dependent on Chinese minerals for batteries and solar cells” ignoring the fact that the entire globe is “dangerously dependent” on a liveable climate
Scorching hot take, heard this week offline
“Climate change is actually a good thing because necessity is the mother of invention. If you have any faith in humans at all, climate change is just what we need to make humans an interplanetary species!”
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Dark Logic. Can’t be wrong, don’t wanna be right. Fuck yeah did we ever get better at war!
That take just increased global temps to the 2 degree mark.
It’s also a great way for mother Earth to teach us a hard lesson. How else are we to learn that we can’t have whole species on one “basket”. No, a good planet to start off on could mars. Now all we need is to invent, invest and grow the smart ones. It’s just so hard to do so with so many yachts for sale.
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Did you forget /s after all this?
Yeah. XD forgot that sarcasm marker. Would explain my current inbox.
I barely caught the sarcasm; I’ve seen takes like yours non-sarcastically before so I had to squint hard.
cultists have radioactive takes.
get in the bazinga rocket — we’re solving climate change by fucking off to a planet we’ve never even set foot on!
Earth is the most hospitable planet to human life in the entire universe, and we seemingly can’t even put in the meager effort to keep it habitable. What makes you think we’ll be any better at making Mars habitable? Not just keeping it habitable as we’ve failed to do on Earth, but making it habitable in the first place.
Saving humanity by expecting a dead planet to be the refuge, under the leadership of the same monsters destroying the planet we’re still on.
It just happened to be the first planet I thought of.
we can’t have whole species on one “basket”.
why not?
can we please fucking kill oil and gas executives now? i know it’s not gonna save us but we deserve something
We ded
We ded
Most likely outcome (high confidence)
still letting this here: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357
That’s capitalism efficiency for you right there, climate apocalypse is ahead of schedule.
Hell yeah were so fucked
Fuck yeaaahhhhhh!!
Okay but that image goes hard. Literally looks like they’re holding fire in their hand.
Even without optical illusions, drip torches are pretty fun to work with.
Earth
is this fine?
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Look at this beauty! If we work together me can get to 3°C or may be more
Uhh yeah it’s not looking good …
Time for cool southern hemisphere countries to establish anti-immigration laws against hot northern hemisphere countries! Once again this proves why early human settlements started nearby rivers, oceans and coastal areas (water access was not the only reason).
