It’s no more than animal cruelty, then any type of livestock farming. What the fuck do you think you get your bacon from? You think the pigs are happy in overcrowded, dirty farms? Do you think the chickens that lay eggs are happy to be confined inside a tiny cage covered in their own shit? You think cows like to eat feed corn day in and day out shoved full of antibiotics? Do you think any of the animals that we use for any type of products are happy to be slaughtered after being fattened up?
If you’re gonna argue animal cruelty, you better stop eating all animal products, and become a vegan. Better yet why don’t you farm your own food and don’t buy anything that comes from modern agriculture because all that shit is covered in pesticides, GMO’s, and all kinds of other nasty shit.
Not at all. Random8847’s dipshit comment is just so smug and whiney.
Every bit helps, however the corporations are really the ones we have to force to change.
If you haven’t noticed having everybody recycle, hasn’t really done shit either. The corporations that pollute really environment cause in the majority of damage yet we’re telling regular every day people it’s their fault and they should do their part.
Most people can tell you exactly who (other than themselves) needs to change. This includes the people who work for the corporations, do business with the corporations and invest in the corporations.
Separately, we can each only control our own choices.
We delegate responsibility to the people who tell us (possibly correctly) that they’re required by law to make decisions based on short term profitability.
So what you’re essentially saying is the government needs to change the laws. Until the laws change, no one will do anything different. And since the government or essentially behold into the corporations, just not gonna happen.
Wtf is free will even? We’re chemical systems, or a metaphysical soul, that makes statistically predictable decisions based on available information as well as uncountable minor factors. If you rewind time and do everything the same, either everyone comes to the same conclusions the same way, or free will requires an aspect of chaos… And at that point you’re at predetermination - seems to me the whole idea is outdated philosophy
But here’s the thing - statistically, people respond in predictable ways. If every time you do X, the majority will respond Y… That’s just math.
Turns out, humans are super complex, but very predictable. And by that I mean policy is extraordinarily effective.
Free will matters on a personal level, it disappears on a societal level
Wtf dude. You give me all of this for a comment with four words?
You either have some vested interests with kopi luwak or you have some serious anger issues. Either ways you need to calm your tits down.
And FYI, all you said might be true but that’s still no reason for anyone to justify kopi luwak. Yes, there are a lot of other ways in which animal cruelty is happening in this world, but if everyone keeps blaming each other then none of it will ever stop.
It’s no more than animal cruelty, then any type of livestock farming. What the fuck do you think you get your bacon from? You think the pigs are happy in overcrowded, dirty farms? Do you think the chickens that lay eggs are happy to be confined inside a tiny cage covered in their own shit? You think cows like to eat feed corn day in and day out shoved full of antibiotics? Do you think any of the animals that we use for any type of products are happy to be slaughtered after being fattened up?
If you’re gonna argue animal cruelty, you better stop eating all animal products, and become a vegan. Better yet why don’t you farm your own food and don’t buy anything that comes from modern agriculture because all that shit is covered in pesticides, GMO’s, and all kinds of other nasty shit.
Do you really think the best way for the world to change is adopting an all or nothing attitude?
What improves the planet more? 1 person becoming hardcore vegan or 1000 people eating meat one day a week instead of seven?
See the problem?
Not at all. Random8847’s dipshit comment is just so smug and whiney.
Every bit helps, however the corporations are really the ones we have to force to change.
If you haven’t noticed having everybody recycle, hasn’t really done shit either. The corporations that pollute really environment cause in the majority of damage yet we’re telling regular every day people it’s their fault and they should do their part.
You literally told them that if they’re gonna argue animal cruelty they’d better stop eating all animal products…
Nobody mentioned corporations until you either, for all we know 8847 might do everything you said in your comment anyway.
A four worded comment is smug, whiney and dipshit? Man, something is really wrong with you. Get some help.
Dude. Go back to reddit. Lemmy really doesn’t need this kind of hyper aggressive stuff. Be better.
Most people can tell you exactly who (other than themselves) needs to change. This includes the people who work for the corporations, do business with the corporations and invest in the corporations.
Separately, we can each only control our own choices.
We delegate responsibility to the people who tell us (possibly correctly) that they’re required by law to make decisions based on short term profitability.
So what you’re essentially saying is the government needs to change the laws. Until the laws change, no one will do anything different. And since the government or essentially behold into the corporations, just not gonna happen.
What I’m saying is that humans have free will, but have internalized concepts that tell they they’re stuck. That someone else must act.
Wtf is free will even? We’re chemical systems, or a metaphysical soul, that makes statistically predictable decisions based on available information as well as uncountable minor factors. If you rewind time and do everything the same, either everyone comes to the same conclusions the same way, or free will requires an aspect of chaos… And at that point you’re at predetermination - seems to me the whole idea is outdated philosophy
But here’s the thing - statistically, people respond in predictable ways. If every time you do X, the majority will respond Y… That’s just math.
Turns out, humans are super complex, but very predictable. And by that I mean policy is extraordinarily effective.
Free will matters on a personal level, it disappears on a societal level
Each individual has a choice.
People follow the pattern laid by others, until someone does something different.
Those of us who focus on making the hard choices to change outcomes become tired of sheep.
Wtf dude. You give me all of this for a comment with four words?
You either have some vested interests with kopi luwak or you have some serious anger issues. Either ways you need to calm your tits down.
And FYI, all you said might be true but that’s still no reason for anyone to justify kopi luwak. Yes, there are a lot of other ways in which animal cruelty is happening in this world, but if everyone keeps blaming each other then none of it will ever stop.
Nah because the animals are fed exclusively coffee berrys and are extremely malnourished
At least in normal farms it’s encouraged to properly feed the animals
Also why are you so angry Who hurt you lol
Someone doesn’t like being made aware of their terrible decisions