You’ve shown it.

I’m the one defending + kids from being made homeless, you’re defending parents spying on their kids.

If this were something criminally liable, jailable, that sort of thing, I’d see where you’re coming from. But I’m certainly not comfortable with the idea of any children, even if it were only a handful being rendered homeless for the sake of their parent’s identity politics.

Once again, you have a presumption of parental evilness in every scenario. I showed in my last message how to tackle this problem without involving teachers and going outside their scope.

Because the parents who would use this information for abuse are the ones I (and many others in this thread) are worried this law will empower.

And I’m rather bothered that your solution is to throw up your hands and say “nothing we could’ve done” while throwing the child into the frying pan, then letting the authorities know once they’ve already been burnt.

It literally is. If your child became religious and had meetings every day with a pastor for a few hours and the pastor wouldn’t tell you what they talked about, are you comfortable with that?

Considering the general reputation of priests for child molestation, I wouldn’t be comfortable with my child meeting everyday with them anyway.

But that aside, you understand it wouldn’t just be the teacher(s) involved, there are other steps to safeguarding resources if the child needed them, teachers are just the first step.

Again, you’re acting as though the child and teacher are having constant secret 1 on 1 sessions, where the teacher is telling your child what to do. The reality of the matter is that teachers are the first step in safeguarding, and if they find this information out, it would be their job to refer the child to relevant resources, or even to a school therapist.

You’re the one who wants to burden teachers by forcing them have to reveal sensitive information that they know could lead to abuse. No teacher wants to be up at night thinking they could be directly responsible for introducing a child into an abusive situation.

So you don’t trust organizations set up to deal with youth homelessness, you also think that should be a burden on the teachers?

That’s such a disingenuous question.

Of course I trust there are good organisations to help with homelessness, but that’s not the point.

If there’s an option to not let it get to the point of needing to rely on those organisations, then we should do just that. If that means giving a teacher (and their school) the right not to disclose sensitive information to parents they suspect may abuse it, I’m comfortable with that.

Come on man, what the hell are you even saying.

I’m saying your approach is callous. Willing to put children into abusive situations for the sake of satisfying helicopter parents who think surveillance is a better solution than building up a trusting home environment.