Ok so a lot of people seem to think Iām a walking contradiction, but Iām trying to walk that as truthfully as I can on both sides of this divide. My lgbt friends are all like āwe accept that you are trans but i dunno about this whole āChristianā thingā and my Christian friends are all like āwe accept that you are Christian but i dunno about this whole ātransā thingā
So in attempting to reconcile all this, I came out to my pastor. In doing so, thereās still a pretty big chance Iāll be kicked out of my church, but that remains to be seen. But my pastor, my wife, and I have been chipping away at a document, back and forth, for like a year now. I donāt know how to edit this into something resembling a blog post, and I donāt agree with my pastorās assertions, but leaving out his response seemed unfair to him. Our conversation hasnāt stopped, but we pivoted to talk about how this looks in reality instead of focusing on the nitty gritty theology, so there isnāt a written āmy response to his responseā part, but there was a verbal part to that, both of us poking holes in each otherās logic, it got very heated. Feel free to ask specific questions in the comments, Iām doing this for full transparency. So at the risk of losing some readability Iām going to try to keep this document in its true final form here, with as few edits as possible to still read coherently like some kinda blag postā¦
Iād like to get it out here on the internet, where maybe it can do some good and let some trans people know that their transness isnāt keeping them from God, and help some Christians know that trans folks arenāt the enemy, but some fellow broken humans that Christ calls us to love⦠and maybe the rare trans Christian will see this and can come out to whichever side they may be lying to.
I think thatās enough ado.
What does the Bible say about being transgender?
Opening note from my pastor: This is a response to your more exegetical explanation of the topic from your perspective. Iām trying to be brief and objective, but I donāt want that to be mistaken as unfeeling. You will see that I disagree with the reasoning put forth, but you know my care for you. Iāll quote your main statements (giving them names for ease of reference) and then summarize and respond to the core arguments in each.
The poetry argument My statement: āThe main argument I see used against trans people is that God created Man and Woman, and the natural order doesnāt allow anything outside of that. My argument against that main argument is that Genesis 1 is poetry, and is not using binaries literally. If we say that Genesis 1 doesnāt allow for anything outside of Man and Woman, then we have to say that Genesis 1 doesnāt allow for dawn and dusk and bogs and beaches and fog and frogs and bats. Much of the theology of what it means to be male and female is built upon verse 21, and functionally adds an āonlyā to the text, that God created only male and female, and leaves no room for grey area. If there is no āonlyā then an intersex condition that doesnāt require medical treatment and doesnāt affect quality of life isnāt necessarily a product of the fall.
My Pastorās response:
The argument could be summarized this way: The binaries God created on the first days of creation have unmentioned transitional states (dawn and dusk, bogs and beaches). Therefore, the binary of man on the last day of creation could also have unmentioned transitional states (such as intersex).
First, it should be stated that, at best, this only argues for the possibility of transitional states between male and female, not the certainty of those states. In other words, it is not conclusive proof. To argue for the existence of anatomical trans-individuals as part of Godās perfect creation would require other evidence, such as āin the image of God he created him; male and female, and combinations thereof, he created them.ā That would settle the issue definitively.
But there is biblical evidence that argues against this conclusion. Iāll point out three observations from Genesis that argue for the binary male and female as Godās only intended design for our biological sex.
The nature of male and female is different than the nature of the other pairings.
Day and night are cyclical phenomena whose transitional states (dusk and dawn) are the necessary outcome of an earth that rotates with respect to the sun. So also land and sea necessarily have transitional states (bogs and beaches) where the two meet. But there is no necessary transitional state between male and female (as in intersex for example). The binary couple is sufficient to ābe fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue itā, which is what they are commanded by God to do (Gen. 1:28). In fact, even after the fall, this is reaffirmed in the flood account, where only male and female couples boarded the ark to replenish the human race, and the command was renewed.
So, the relationship between male and female is not directly comparable to the other pairings in the Genesis account. This makes the created binary of the last day unlike the created binaries of the other days. The assumption that it should have transitional states is unjustified on those grounds.
Second, we have a direct report that when God rested from his creation, there was only the binary of male and female, with no transitional states.
When God said in Genesis 1:27 āmale and female he created themā he was referring to Adam and Eve, no one else. And as if to double down on this fact, Genesis 2 recounts the creation of man in more detail, describing how God created the one man and then the one woman from that man. It is these two individuals who then sinned in Genesis 3 and were cast out of the Garden.
This argues against the possibility that God intended to make transitional states of male and female. The actual result of creation before the fall was a male and a female, not intersex.
Most importantly, Genesis 1 highlights in several ways that man ā male and female ā is Godās crowning achievement, unlike anything else he has made.
First, God uses a term to describe man ā male and female ā which he uses for nothing else. Only man is made āin his own imageā (Gen. 1:26-27). The terms āin our imageā or āafter our likenessā communicate that man is more like God than anything else he has made. This is why he is given dominion over the rest of creation. Man is to reflect the character and creative capacity and benevolent rule of God over everything else. Man, created in his image specifically as āmale and female he created themā is like God and accountable to God, which is restoring man to the image of God (Romans 8:29; 2 Cor. 3:18) is the focus of the redemptive work of Christ.
The repetition of the term ācreatedā also points to manās uniqueness in creation. The description that God ācreatedā something only happens once before manās creation, which was the creation of the land creatures. But when manās creation is described, it is with a thrice-repeated emphasis: āGod created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. In other words, everything else was ācreatedā but man was ācreated, created, created!ā This is like bold face and underlining to signify unique importance. Also, the progression of the value statements from āgoodā to āvery goodā reflect this unique creation of man. Everything that was created in days one through five received at best what we might call a 4-star rating, namely āAnd God saw that it was goodā (Gen. 1:9, 12, 18, 21, 25). But only when God creates man as male and female does he give it a 5-star rating, namely āAnd God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very goodā (Gen. 1:31). What made it very good? The creation of male and female. They are special in Godās creation. Everything else that was made was made was for them so they could āfillā and āsubdueā the earth. The earth was like a stage set for the actors to arrive. What we can responsibly conclude from all that has been said above is this: There is no evidence for the existence of anatomical trans-individuals in creation; in fact, the evidence is strongly against it. What makes more sense is the simple solution, that the āpoeticā binary language in Genesis 1 is chosen precisely to build anticipation for the ultimate binary which is male and female in Godās image.
The variety argument My statement: āGod created the world, and in his infinite intelligence he made it extremely complicated and messy and thereās always more to learn in any scientific pursuit, we never find the bottom or the top of Creation. We point Hubble at a dark patch of sky and find things we never imagined, we break apart subatomic particles and find things we donāt have names for yet. Any argument that hinges on downplaying the intricate details and incredible nuance that everything in Creation has, is missing a view of a God who loves variety.ā
My pastorās response: The argument could be summarized this way: God made a world of great variety and complexity, the depths of which we continue to discover. To deny that he could have created trans-individuals downplays his creativity and amounts to a downgraded view of God. Again, this only argues for the possibility of transitional states between male and female, (i.e. a creative God could have created physically trans-individuals as part of his creativity). But this is unconvincing for the simple reason that God decides what shape his creativity takes, and what shape it doesnāt take. After all, he is the potter and we are the clay (Isaiah 64:8, Rom. 9:21). Who are we to tell him what he made and how it should be made? We arenāt downgrading Godās creativity or love of variety by appreciating an individual work of art that is unlike all the others. Man as male and female is āfearfully and wonderfully madeā (Psa. 139:14), his greatest work of art. The variety argument assumes Godās creativity must include intermediate states of human biological sex. But it does not. The variety of the species (dogs and frogs) does not necessitate gender variety within a species. From this it makes sense that conditions like intersex are the result of the fall. After the fall, the world is like a corrupted hard drive, with brokenness both of body and mind. Gender dysphoria and the blurring of biological sex is part of the corrupted hard drive. Therefore it canāt be relied upon as a picture of what God intended for man. Only the uncorrupted hard drive tells us what God intended to create. And that is man as male and female, in his image. Binary. Everything else is a deviation from Godās will.
The argument from texts prohibiting gender confusion My statement: āSmaller argument against: Prohibitions against confusing gender by oneās physical appearance apply to its practice in idol worship (Deuteronomy 22:5) or they address specific cultural situations and are not universal in scope, like the length of hair and covering or uncovering the head during worship in 1 Corinthians 11:14-15.ā
My pastorās response: Letās say for the moment that this is true. And as far as I know, these are the only two texts that specifically address confusing gender by oneās physical appearance. If this is the case, here is what we have: The only texts in the Bible speaking of confusing gender appearance are both prohibitions. The prohibitions are in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. The prohibitions are in the context of both idol worship and Christian worship. There are no positive affirmations of confusing gender appearance in the Bible. Now, if we are looking for what the Bible says about this issue, is it reasonable to conclude from the above that it affirms confusing gender appearance? Certainly not. The much more obvious conclusion is to say that the Bible doesnāt affirm this in any context, which is why the prohibitions are there. And that would be entirely consistent with what was said in previous points, namely that God created us male and female and he wants what he created to remain distinct according to his design. It could also be argued, I think appropriately, that the texts communicate a universal prohibition, not just a local or cultural situation, because both prohibitions are unqualified. But as you say, this is a āsmaller argumentā, so I wonāt pursue that.
The inclusivity argument My statement: āMy main argument for God allowing/affirming trans folks is: Who were the āgender non conformingā people of biblical times, and what does the bible say about them? The eunuch! Isa 56:3-5 - God has a place for us, a name for us. A promise of inclusivity. This also is the verse that finally gave me a place to stand in my theology and tell people what I was going through. Matthew 19:12 - Jesus giving a positive affirmation of the eunuchs, including those who make this choice themselves. I recognize this is in context talking about not being married, but itās the only time Jesus talks about the eunuchs, and he does so in a positive light. Acts 8:36-37 - The Ethiopian Eunuch is culturally as far from Philip as possible; he is of different social status, skin color, nationality, and gender presentation. He asks Philip what is preventing him from being baptized, and Philip sees past all their differences and baptizes him. Gal. 3:28 - Paulās statement that there is āno longer male or femaleā is one example in a list of things that describe people, but should have no bearing on their status in the family of God. It suggests an affirmation of gender nonconformity, since it appears the Lord is downplaying sex identity as well as social standing and Jewishness.ā
My pastorās response: Thereās a lot in here to address, but for the moment Iām out of time to do justice to each Scriptural reference. So let me focus on a common theme in your argument. I would put your thoughts this way: God is inclusive of all kinds of people from all different backgrounds, including āgender non-conformingā, with the eunuch being the prime example. He speaks of them in an affirming way. This posture means he affirms their gender non-conformity. First, let me say that I have seen no convincing argument that a eunuch (as in Matthew 19:12) is anyone other than a man who is unable to marry and bear children due to: genital deformity (āeunuchs who have been so from birthā), castration (āeunuchs who have been made eunuchs by menā) or voluntary celibacy for the purpose of gospel ministry (āeunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heavenā). Jesus is speaking of all these men in the context of marriage, which is the subject of the previous verses. The disciples were aghast at the restrictions on divorce and exclaimed āIf such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marryā (Mat. 19:10). Jesus then says, āNot everyone can receive this saying [that it is better not to marry], but only those to whom it is givenā. To whom is it given to not marry? It is given to eunuchs, because they are men who canāt marry for the three reasons he mentions. This is not an affirmation of gender non-conformity; it is an affirmation of the sanctity of marriage as a bond not to be broken. You mention from the Isaiah 56 passage that it is a promise of inclusivity, and it seems to me that this strikes at the heart of the pain you feel. You want to be included, you want to know that God loves you and that there is a place for you in heaven. Those are all good desires which God intends to fulfill through the gospel. But it seems that your concept of inclusivity means more than that. It seems that inclusivity also means Godās affirmation of your self-perception as a female in a male body. You want his approval of your gender non-conformity as essential to your sense of his love. The Isaiah 56 passage does not affirm that. Rather, it is one of many passages where God simply affirms that no matter what a personās brokenness is, they will be redeemed through faith in him. It is inclusive in the sense that anyone can be saved, but it does not affirm the brokenness itself. God loves his people, but not their brokenness, which is what he intends to save us from. Letās look at what Isaiah 56 does say. Isaiah 56:4 For thus says the LORD: "To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant⦠Observation: The eunuchs here are men who are unable to marry and bear children, and they are faithful God worshippers who want to please God. They are the objects of the promise that follows. Isaiah 56:5 I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off. Observation: The promise is that even though the ānameā of the eunuchs wonāt continue in this life ā because they have no progeny ā they can be encouraged. God has a name for them that is everlasting. Because they trust in God, their name will be established forever in the life to come. This doesnāt affirm their āeunuchā status as a good thing. Rather he gives consolation for their broken state. I would say the same thing about the Ethiopian eunuch. Philip baptized him because the man believed the gospel, and anyone who does that should be baptized, regardless of their background or brokenness. All may come to the living waters and be washed by the blood of Christ. God affirms us in his Son, but that does not mean he affirms our brokenness itself as a good thing. That is especially true for our sins. After birth, there needs to be growth in holiness. This is sanctification. The Galatians 3 passage is on similar ground. The subject matter in that passage is about who is justified before God and heirs to Godās promises. Answer: āIn Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faithā (Gal. 3:26). Faith is what connects us to Christ, who makes us sons of God in union with him. And who is āin Christā? Answer: āas many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christā (Gal. 3:27). Faith expressed in baptism is how we āput on Christā. And are there any restrictions on who that can be? Answer: No, āThere is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesusā (Gal. 3:28). This is not a text about gender nonconformity as a good thing, or a downplaying of the very real differences between people. It is an affirmation that anyone can become āAbrahamās offspring, heirs according to promiseā (Gal. 3:29). The main point here is that Godās affirmation of those in Christ is not an affirmation of the brokenness and sin that made us need salvation in the first place. He loves us, but not the things that break us.
The dualism argument My statement: āSecondary argument: Dualism! I have less riding on this, but this is what it feels like to be trans. The mind/soul and body donāt connect properly. So is it ok to adjust the body to fit the mind? 1 Samuel 16:7 - God looks at the heart. He knows the real me, not the physical me that everyone else sees and judges me for. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 - Transitioning your body to align with your heart may not be sinful, but may even be a positive step in taking care of yourself, which we are commanded to do. I have trouble taking care of this temple of the Holy Spirit and would take better care of a more feminine me.ā
My pastorās response: We can affirm that God looks at the heart and knows our inner life (1 Sam. 16:7 as an example). We can also affirm that God created us with souls and bodies, the immaterial and material āyouā. The immaterial āyouā is referred to in Scripture as heart/mind/soul/spirit. But the question is this: when the heart/mind doesnāt agree with the physical body, which one is most likely to be right? In other words, what is most likely to be the positive step of taking care of yourself? Do you change the body or change the mind? Scripture says we change the mind, not the body. Hereās why I say that. One of the frequent descriptions of how we are fallen is in our hearts and minds, in how we perceive things, what we value, and what we believe. For example, Ephesians 4:17-18 āā¦you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.ā This is a sweeping indictment of man without God: our hearts and minds are fallen. We also have commands not to trust our heart/mind, but to trust the Lordās word over our own understanding. For example: Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. Proverbs 28:26 Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered. Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, These and other texts show us why we canāt trust our own thoughts about who we are: we need God to tell us who we are. And he has said what we are: male and female and nothing in between. Our biological sex is what God created; it is not a result of the fall. So if our bodies and minds donāt agree, the body is telling the truth, not the mind. That means transitioning your body to align with your heart would not be a positive step in taking care of yourself, for it is contrary to Godās will for how he created you. Rather, through the word and the Holy Spirit, we gradually are transformed by the renewing of our minds.
The asthma argument My statement: āAsthma Test/Sliding Scale of Medical Care What sin is being committed by transitioning? Lying to oneself? Idolizing oneās appearances? Iāve never seen a good answer to this question. Only people saying Itās a sin because they think it is. Is body modification like tattoos/piercings a sin? Why or why not? What about altering oneās physiology like taking asthma medicine?ā
My pastorās response: Here I think we need to make a distinction between the categories of sin and disability. Asthma is a disability that is a result of the fall. It is not sin itself, and the pursuit of alleviating the pain is not wrong. God intends to heal us from all disability in the new creation. We are aligned with his will when we use the common grace of medicine for that. But biological sex as male or female is not a result of the fall; it is not a disability. It is Godās design. If a person is born with a distinct bodily gender as male or female, that is not brokenness; that is āfearfully and wonderfully made.ā That is not a āconditionā that needs to be treated. [Intersex might be, but that is a disability and not a case of gender dysphoria.] To intentionally change oneās biological sex to the opposite sex would be to reject Godās design. And as a side note, tattoos and piercings donāt change a personās gender, so that is not fundamentally a sinful thing to do. That brings us to the big question: What sin is being committed by transitioning? It would be twofold. First, it is sin to reject Godās design for our life, to reject his choice of our gender. That is like saying to God, āYou made a mistake, and I am going to fix it.ā And that cannot be. Second, it is seeking from transitioning something that can only be found in Jesus Christ: rest for your soul (Matt. 11:28-30). That makes it idolatry, for it is seeking life from something you can do rather than from what God has done, which is to send Christ to die for you and to dwell with you by his Spirit. Consistently the Scriptures point us to Christ and all that we have in him to alleviate our distress. And many people who have taken that path to alleviate their pain, even gender dysphoria, have found the help they needed. I believe you will also.
TL;DR.
Hereās what the Bible says about trans people: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL because it was written by fucking middle eastern herdsmen with a bad case of magical thinking millennia ago.
Iād usually recommend the Skepticās annotated bible for this kind of topic research, but there is no topic on āwhat the bible says aboutā transgender people, because the people that wrote that book had no idea trans people even could exist.
There is a bunch of stuff on homosexuality, women, and sex though.
Edit: I found this on the āpenisesā section lol
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. Deuteronomy 23:1
Eunuchs were relatively common in the era that the old testament was written. Notably, the Assyrians placed eunuchs into governor roles over areas they wished to maintain control including the Levant, and places where people like Israelites and Judeans had been deported to within Assyrian territory. There was a view that if a man castrated himself he was cast out of his own family, but could be useful to imperialists as they wouldnāt rebel against the empire because they couldnāt have heirs
In that context itās no wonder that eunuchs were vilified by the authors of the old testament.
The church my friends go to, thereās half a dozen trans people there.
None of us have ever had to litigate our validity of existence to the pastor. And he certainly doesnāt consider us to be a result of corruption.
This is my experience. It can be that easy.
I think both you and your pastor are operating at a disadvantage if you are arguing about this from any translation of the Bible. Things have been changed between translations to serve certain interests, and I am saying that as someone who was raised Catholic in the South where the King James Bible was popular. Even going from Old to modern English in the Catholic Bible took away some ambiguity in the verses.
The main reason I bring that up is that, well, I donāt know if you feel this way but I was taught that Judaism is the predecessor to Christianity. And with that, why not look to how some of their texts are written to gain a broader idea of how gender is viewed by the Abrahamic God? Look up āgenderā in the Talmud
Argh I want to comment but I donāt want to be a dick about religion but I also really want to be a dick about religion
Iāll say this: All the most hateful people I know are christian.
āThereās no hate like Christian loveā appeared a lot on Reddit.
Guessing you are in the USA, look for an ELCA Lutheran Church. Not saying all ELCA pastors are perfect but they will be more open and able to help you on this journey while accepting you as you are.
OP might be able to find an affirming United Methodist church as well; the UMC recently voted to affirm LGBTQ+ clergy by a very large margin (90ish percent in favor).
To my knowledge, the Bible itself doesnāt say much. The few notable exceptions are a few lines in Song of Solomon (specifically in regards to gendered expectations of who is saying what lines that could be seen as socially transgressive), and very few mentions of the Greek word malakoi. Malakoi referred to softness or effeminacy, but has been difficult to translate from the original context since there are so few uses of that specific word in the Bible.
That being said, Jennifer Wright Knust wrote a book called Unprotected Texts in which she demonstrates why the Bible should not be used as the measuring stick for sexual morality. Knust specifically calls out the Song of Solomon in regards to gendered expectations, though she doesnāt spend a lot of time on that topic.
Iām glad youāve brought up the āinbetweennessā argument within creation, such as night/twilight/dawn/dusk/day, etc. This spectrum between extremes, also called a ācontinuumā, is talked about at length in Adrian Thatcherās Gender and Christian Ethics. This is a really fantastic book in my opinion, and really brought to light the theological legitimacy of gender expression.
Patrick Cheng, a queer pastor and theologian, wrote Radical Love: An Introduction to Queer Theology, which is another fantastic resource.
If youāll permit me to recommend a few more books about Queer Theology: Indecent Theology: Theological Perversions in Sex, Gender and Politics and The Queer God, both by Marcella Althaus-Reid. Althaus-Reid offers a unique perspective about sex and gender, specifically coming from an angle of liberation from oppressive forces, whether political or religious. And Susannah Cornwall wrote Constructive Theology and Gender Variance: Transformative Creatures, where she discusses trans* identities as a process of continual building and living in that identity.
All of these authors are Christians, and with the exception of Cheng, have taught (or still teaching) at various universities.
To summarize: the Bible itself doesnāt say much, but thereās far more sources of inspiration to the Christian faith than what is contained in the Bible. Various denominations recognize/do not recognize the legitimacy of those sources (which is also talked about in Thatcherās book).
In addition to the other great suggestions here, I recommend Austen Hartkeās book āTransformingā. Itās got a fairly well formed framing of the arguments youāre looking at and more - it attempts to put them together into a coherent overall arc of the Bibleās message as it relates to gender and I think it does a fairly good job.
He also is involved with (founded?) a group called Transmission Ministry Collective that has some discussion groups and other resources online. I donāt knkw much about that but i get the impression itās fairly active.
Anyway, youāre not alone. There are dozens of us! (trans Christians). I grew up in independent fundamentalist Baptist churches but these days I feel quite at home in our local UCC church. And I also discovered so many other Issues where I feel they are more in tune with the Bible compared to the world I grew up in.
Also for online services I highly recommend a church called Restore Austin, which streams on YouTube. If you canāt find a welcoming community it can be good to at least remind yourself they do exist.
This is all assuming a Protestant/evangelical background, sorry if that doesnāt apply - I donāt know as much about the landscapes of other traditions.
Iām cis, can I comment here? Iām really sorry this happened to you; I very much find your pastorās arguments very harmful, and not in the spirit of Jesusā teachings. If itās not intruding, Iāll elaborate more sometime in coming days.
Im Jewish so this will come from a Jewish perspective (basically ignoring the new testament and most translations since Judaism doesnāt recognize those). Basically nothing, there are a few laws against crossdressing but the definition of crossdressing is vague because eveyone wore robes back then. Some Jewish texts imply that there are multiple genders beyond the binary but like everything its up to interoperation. Im not sure if Christians even recognize those texts that imply multiple genders.
Iām actually on my own path and trying to figure out a means to sorta deal with how my thoughts have been turning dark over current politics, in a way. I have yet to read your full post, as Iām at work, but Iāll circle back to it after work if I can.
I quite literally just had a 50min phonecall with a priest this afternoon to discuss attending an episcopal church. Which, turns out, is super chill with a lot of stuff and donāt take things so literal in a lot of cases. In my case, the church I would attend is very affirming and accepting. Some episcopal churches might not be on an individual basis, but the stance of episcopal as a while, far as I have seen, is LGBT accepting.
Itās an offshoot of Catholic, kinda born out of the church of England and Lutheran? I guess. How he explained it to me is that they sorta take the things that make sense and leave the rest. He even said he had no issues with piercings or tattoos, and Iād be welcome as a pierced, tatted trans woman.
As for the biblical sense, thereās a passage I read recently, Galatians 3:28, that felt good enough for me as a tatted up, many pierced trans woman. It reads: Edit: I see you had used this in an argument. My bad. It still seems valid for my overall comment.
28: There is no Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male or female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. 29: And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abrahamās offspring, heirs according to the promise.
I dunno if I even believe in any of it, tbh, as Iām agnostic. But lately agnostic and figuring out my place in the world and internally hasnāt been enough on my own and Iāve been furious at the world for being awful and furious at myself for being furious at the world. Itās been a weird sort of place for me.
I dunno if this helps you any, but episcopal is gearing up to maybe be where I need to go to just figure some stuff out. At the very least, itās a church that has a lot of volunteering and thatās important to me as someone who has a hard time leaving the house.
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