Cooking for others is degrading I guess - eviltoast

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  • lxvi@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    The liberals are doing it. They are trying to dismantle the most sacred and ancient of ethical traditions of guest-host relations. Don’t you dare strengthen your community by establishing some co-relation in the most basic and universally understood manor. Don’t you dare act kindly toward your neighbor or break out of your selfish, commodified, isolation. How dare you do a kind act without expecting something greater in return. The liberals are going after what’s left of humanities soul in the West. They’ll sterilize the humanity out of us more than they already have with their twisted, hedonistic ideology.

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      2 years ago

      Is there any particular reason as to why libs naturally have and show less emotions than Terminator or Jason?

      I’ve talked to more than enough of them, these people are monsters, no regard to anything except their ideology

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 years ago

        Egoism has been taught to them as a virtue.

        Honestly it looks exactly like the material emanation of subjective idealist philosophy, nothing is real to them except them.

        • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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          If one reads Prince by Machiavelli and then takes a look at Renaissance art, sculpture, culture, one can see how a plea to virtue was embedded in and reflected the ruling ideology. The virtues were captured in art and portrayed for everyone to see (before and while Machiavelli wrote – he didn’t necessarily come up with the idea himself).

          The art from that time is often brutal. It was a virtue to be warlike and able to crush one’s enemies. So aristocrats and merchants (an early model of the modern bourgeois in the first proto-capitalist city states) would pay for paintings and sculptures of themselves wielding clubs and crushing other strong men – capturing their supposed manly virtue.

          The same kind of portrayals can be seen throughout Europe following the Renaissance.

          It’s strange… the dark ages are acknowledged, a time when records were lost, before the Renaissance became the Enlightenment, but if humans survive whatever is about to come our way with global warming and nuclear war, I’m guessing that future societies will look back at this time as having ‘slipped back’ into a second dark age, where humanity largely lost the capacity to see itself. The parallels are uncanny. (Parenti’s History as Mystery touches on the suppression of historical knowledge, as does, IIRC, Cedric Robinson’s An Anthropology of Marxism.)

          Today we see this everywhere in film, TV, books, magazines, all media forms. Constant depictions of what makes people (especially those in the ruling class) great, and better than others. It’s quite insidious, but art is taught poorly in schools, so children are not taught to question – or even to see – their environment. @Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml, this may explain why we see so many Terminators and Jasons.

          Curiously, most people don’t even accept that members of the ruling class pay for art (and news stories) that depicts them in glory. If you mention it, people’s eyes glaze over or they call you a conspiracy theorist.

          In a way, they’re right, because some of the payment mechanisms are distorted by the wage labour relation. And there are so many people willing to idealise the status quo without being commissioned like a merchant explicitly seeking out a canvas by da Vinci or Michelangelo. As if PR and marketing firms are not just a sophisticated form of the same age old practice.

          I suppose the ruling class knows how dangerous it is to teach the lower classes history and to teach them how to understand relations as historically contingent. That path would lead to Marxism even if it did not lead to Marx or Marxists.

          I’m unsure if this is what you meant, @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml, by

          the material emanation of subjective idealist philosophy

          but it’s what you made me think of.

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            2 years ago

            Now that you mention it, i cannot attest for art, but it’s also very visible in literature, especially the fairly young genre that is supposed to look in the future - the science fiction - from around 30 years already, their visions are increasingly dark dystopias, and even when they aren’t openly nightmarish they do tend to regress into the “golden age” of “infinitely” growing capitalist economy.

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              Good example!

              It’s especially problematic with sci-fi, too, because it often leaves the reader thinking that they can now spot the big problem. Or that capitalism can exist in the future. I can’t remember the source, but I recently heard that with current technology (including tech that we can predict will be possible in future), even if we can start extracting from space, at the rate of growth needed to sustain capitalism, we will still run out of resources in 400 years! That is not long at all in human historical terms!

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                we will still run out of resources in 400 years! That is not long at all in human historical terms!

                Well capitalists usually barely plan for more than one quarter ahead, so when they hear about 400 years they will just burn the Earth.