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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Re: beef tallow fries. I tried some tonight. I liked them. They taste exactly as youād expect: beefy. Is it worth fascism? Definitely not.
Yāknow, beef tallow fries couldāve probably done well at steakhouses without the stench of Eau de Fascism turning people off of it.
Youāre already going there to have some meat, might as well infuse the fries with some extra beefy flavour.
Depends on the steakhouse. Take a shitty american chain steakhouse, for example; it could go either way. They might still try cater to vegetarians, because these chains are a volume business. But it also makes sense in that saturating your meal with beef makes sense for a shitty chain steakhouse.
For a fancier place concerned with taste, having beef on everything would desensitise you to that taste, and would probably kill the experience.
Iām not sure I want to know, but what is the relation from beef tallow to fascism, is it related to the whole seed oil conspiracy? Or is it one of these imagined ultra manly masculine man things for maxxing the intake of meat? (Iām losing track of all the insane bullshit, thereās just too much.)
Youāve actually pretty much got it. Thereās the wellness to fascism pipeline, which includes seed-oil-phobia and beef-tallow-philia. The biggest proponent right now is likely the current US secretary of health and human services RFK jr., who in a recent interview at a steak and shake decried seed oils in favour of beef tallow.
I donāt actually think thereās much of a hyper-masculine angle to it, but wouldnāt be surprised if Iām wrong. I think the manosphere would be more into eating meat that needs to be hunted. I donāt look much at that part of the internet.
More discussion at a.s here
I feel like Iāve seen chud weirdos ranting about seed oils suppressing testosterone levels, but I could be hallucinating
Iād believe it! I donāt spend much time looking at the specifics of chud weirdo discourse, but that definitely sounds like something theyād pull out of their ass.
A little more depth. Feel free to read up on the wellness to fascism pipeline in your own time, but hereās an outline of how I understand it:
The concept of wellness begins when the general public is encouraged to care about health. Wellness influencers are soon to follow (consider: Richard Simmons, Jane Fonda. The aerobic gymnastics world championships).
The wellness influencer population balloons during the current age of social media. A lot of them begin parroting conspiracy theories, for good reason! There are real conspiracies with negative health impacts. Consider: Big Ag pushing HFCS. Unfortunately, not all of these influencers are gonna be well read on the science, and someone looking to become fit and healthy is probably more likely to just uncritically listen to models on instagram. So now there is a huge community of people that will uncritically believe conspiracy theories as long as they come from a wellness influencer.
Now, whether by design or accident, far-right conspiracies are sprinkled into this mix. While there is probably already an undercurrent of this*, the situation takes a nosedive during the early stages of the COVID pandemic. Thereās a huge explosion of fascist conspiracies, notably the idea that the pandemic was caused by foreigners, causing anti-asian hate crimes to spike. So, where are health-related conspiracies going to propagate most virulently? The wellness community!
So, how do seed oils factor into this? Letās say youāre someone thinking about becoming healthier. You donāt really know much about health science, and arenāt really trying to fix that situation. One day, youāre on tiktok, getting bombarded by thirst traps, when one day, the algorithm throws a fit thirst trap your way to tell you about one simple trick that will help your heart health: switching from seed oils to beef tallow and butter. Now, youāre not totally stupid, and you know that for some reason, beef tallow and butter are supposed to be kinda bad for you, so youāre a little skeptical. Thatās when the influencer tells you that canola oil, one of the most popular and cheapest seed oils, doesnāt come from a real plant- Canola is a portmanteau of āCanā from Canada, where canola oil was developed, and āolaā from āoleumā, latin for oil. Thatās right, you heard them: Canola oil was invented in a lab by Big (canadian) Science! A couple more tiktoks and spoonfuls of the naturalistic fallacy later and QAnon themselves is knocking at your door, looking for a place to stay.
*Of course, there is a fascism to wellness pipeline in play as well, though this is a little more straightforward. You canāt look like the master race if youāre unfit. You canāt be pure if you eat processed foods. But also buy these Alex Jones approved nutrient supplements, etc.
āCanolaā was minted because ārape seed oilā is an even worse name.