Same with events that exclude attendance based on sex/gender.
There’s a time and a place.
For example, a “women’s only” group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don’t want to see men there.
But a parent and child group that excludes races? That just a gross kind of bigotry.
For example, a “women’s only” group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don’t want to see men there.
“Maybe that whites-only parenting group could be healing from some trauma caused by POC and they don’t really want to see POC there.”
Do you see the problem? A POC causing you trauma is not a good reason to reject POC people in general, and a man causing you trauma isn’t a good reason to reject men in general either.
A group dedicated to victims of domestic violence could easily encompass both men and women who have suffered from it, whether the perpetrators were men or women. Cis & trans, it bears saying.
A person who has a blanket phobia of people of a particular gender or ethnicity needs therapy to address their sexism/racism. “I don’t feel safe around men” has the exact same energy as “I don’t feel safe around black people”.
Is that the best argument you can put forth against what I’m saying? I can give you some more ammunition: I’m queer, disabled, atheist, an immigrant and vote green. Or perhaps those are collectives that you don’t feel comfortable discriminating openly.
There’s a time and a place.
For example, a “women’s only” group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don’t want to see men there.
But a parent and child group that excludes races? That just a gross kind of bigotry.
I get what you’re saying, but bear in mind that women can be both in relationships with other women and those can also be violent.
Of course, there is nuance, but I was giving an example based on what I know exists and why.
That’s just sexism though
ITT: a bunch of replies to the above from men who don’t get what the problem is.
Big “not all men” energy. =/
it’s reply guys galore
The women’s only group isn’t necessary
All SA victims are valid regardless of gender
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“Maybe that whites-only parenting group could be healing from some trauma caused by POC and they don’t really want to see POC there.”
Do you see the problem? A POC causing you trauma is not a good reason to reject POC people in general, and a man causing you trauma isn’t a good reason to reject men in general either.
A group dedicated to victims of domestic violence could easily encompass both men and women who have suffered from it, whether the perpetrators were men or women. Cis & trans, it bears saying.
A person who has a blanket phobia of people of a particular gender or ethnicity needs therapy to address their sexism/racism. “I don’t feel safe around men” has the exact same energy as “I don’t feel safe around black people”.
lol how to identify a dude on the Internet
Is that the best argument you can put forth against what I’m saying? I can give you some more ammunition: I’m queer, disabled, atheist, an immigrant and vote green. Or perhaps those are collectives that you don’t feel comfortable discriminating openly.
That was not an argument, don’t know why you’d think it is one.
I just found it amusing