If there is one thing I’d hoped the world learned from us in the last 9 years or so, don’t bend a fucking knee to conservatives regardless of where they are. Don’t excuse, try to explain away or “Sanewash” shit they do.
Don’t publize them, call out that idiocy was said, show why it’s idiotic, and drop it. Don’t give them time to dominate the news cycle.
God damnit it’s frustrating seeing others go through the shit you just tried to stop, it’s like watching the cars continue to slam into a pile up on a frozen foggy highway.
I was happy with my Ontario Carbon Rebate cheques. The conservatives really had their way in the media, re-dubbing it “carbon tax” when it was actually a very good program with money back from. I hate how sports reporters have more tenacity than those covering politics.
Calling alt-right authoritarian regressives/reactionaries “conservatives” bothers me. It’s like “Damn those democracies and republics, like North Korea”, and “Nazis were nationalists and socialists - it’s in the name”.
Conservatism is being wary of change and sticking to what works. Like not fucking up the climate.
Conservative parties have been idologically opposed to the rights, freedoms, and prosperity of the regular person for centuries. Word meanings are contextual, and in the context of governing blocs, it’s never meant “wary of change and sticking to what works”. It has always meant “fuck you, I’ve got mine”.
When feudalism was the old way, and human rights and freedoms were new, they were literally conserving the old way. The name was technically true.
Anyway, my point: Don’t let enemies commandeer language with their newspeak where nothing means anymore what it apparently means and used to mean. If we agree to call them conservatives now, some literal-minded centrists (or whatever they are) will be fooled into voting them. We should repeat “that name is a lie, their actions are alt-right authoritarian”. It’s a mistake to go along with the lie and write on a map “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” or “Gulf of America”.
Do we have a technical term for “fuck you, I’ve got mine”? Some opposite of socialism? Selfish?
I disagree. It’s about the status quo. So to them it is about protecting regular people but in this sense the regular people are the status quo people. This is why they’re successful. They have higher social intelligence. The left even describes this system without realizing it. The left are more diverse sub groups. Minority groups within the pop culture. So political the right are mostly always trying to maintain the social order while the left looks to disrupt it.
The right are blue jeans and bubble gum America. The left are multiple sub groups of minorities all trying to make their main status quo while the status quo people reject all these groups in order to maintain their status quo.
This is why Republicans do try to conserve. They fight to maintain the blue jeans bubble gum way while the left fight to change it.
First is thinking you’re going to win with an inflated sense of competency. Pretending like you’re above it all is going to mean failure.
The reason for that is because of your second failure in thinking that “they’re all conservatives”. They’re not. Just like I’m not liberal even though I’ll vote that way. So what are they?
They’re no less smarter or any more dumb then you or me. They have different values. Majority of them are not just conservative or Republican or even right wing. They’re just people mildly paying attention. So saying ‘you should know just google it’ missed the fact that this opinion will lose every ounce of power politically.
Why your line of reasoning fails is it shows how you’re not willing to accept that all those people really do respond to certain messages over others. The left fails at creating content and winning social victories which are the foundational blocks to winning the bigger victories. Stop acting like you’re too big brained to understand what every single person has known for centuries. Messages should be easy to understand and digest to maximize its reach.
Everybody keeps calling them stupid. They’re not. I would even bet on average they have a much greater understanding of current events than people on the left. This is because the right has more surface area and easier to digest content, slogans, media, efforts than the left. We all see these simple slogans and think what a stupid message. Meanwhile it still rallies them to create city crippling convoys where those idiots are still on bridges today. We keep confusing their messages and politics as stupid without realizing it’s really just purposely simple whereas we’re all regulated to corners of the internet with barely anything to spread expect comments like “welp those idiots sure did it again, they usurped power while we passively watch”.
If they’re winning victory after victory and usurping power then whose the real idiots
That’s actually really funny you showed how right I am on this.
Also status quo and sub groups within society isn’t any mind blowing revelation. It’s just people fail to apply it to politics for some reason even though it explains so much of it.
If that was a fact then conservatives would have more empathy for the poor, for immigrants, for people in jail … for everyone who has less than they do.
But that’s not true, is it? Conservatives want money and power and they will beat the living shit out of anyone they can to get it.
You sound a lot like an anti-vaxxer, convoy supporter … so right up the Conservative’s alley.
Keep on keeping on, so that when they come for your job and home you won’t even see it coming.
That’s not what Conservatism is. The ideology is and always has been about opposing equality and enlightenment values. The only difference between conservatives and the alt-right is that they’re better at optics and lying.
It would suck right now to be a conservative with so much of world politics now being between centre left and radical right, with no simple conservative position left.
American here…
If there is one thing I’d hoped the world learned from us in the last 9 years or so, don’t bend a fucking knee to conservatives regardless of where they are. Don’t excuse, try to explain away or “Sanewash” shit they do.
Don’t publize them, call out that idiocy was said, show why it’s idiotic, and drop it. Don’t give them time to dominate the news cycle.
God damnit it’s frustrating seeing others go through the shit you just tried to stop, it’s like watching the cars continue to slam into a pile up on a frozen foggy highway.
I was happy with my Ontario Carbon Rebate cheques. The conservatives really had their way in the media, re-dubbing it “carbon tax” when it was actually a very good program with money back from. I hate how sports reporters have more tenacity than those covering politics.
Get in their faces and never fucking move, Canada. Keep fascists marginalized and weird at any cost.
Can’t do that. That’s confrontation and that scares us. It’s why we’re here on Lemmy instead. We need to only stick to the choir.
Come on guys sing with me e minor
“Fascist Regressive Nazi Oligarchs”
Teaching them a lesson one derogatory category at a time.
Calling alt-right authoritarian regressives/reactionaries “conservatives” bothers me. It’s like “Damn those democracies and republics, like North Korea”, and “Nazis were nationalists and socialists - it’s in the name”.
Conservatism is being wary of change and sticking to what works. Like not fucking up the climate.
Conservative parties have been idologically opposed to the rights, freedoms, and prosperity of the regular person for centuries. Word meanings are contextual, and in the context of governing blocs, it’s never meant “wary of change and sticking to what works”. It has always meant “fuck you, I’ve got mine”.
When feudalism was the old way, and human rights and freedoms were new, they were literally conserving the old way. The name was technically true.
Anyway, my point: Don’t let enemies commandeer language with their newspeak where nothing means anymore what it apparently means and used to mean. If we agree to call them conservatives now, some literal-minded centrists (or whatever they are) will be fooled into voting them. We should repeat “that name is a lie, their actions are alt-right authoritarian”. It’s a mistake to go along with the lie and write on a map “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” or “Gulf of America”.
Do we have a technical term for “fuck you, I’ve got mine”? Some opposite of socialism? Selfish?
I disagree. It’s about the status quo. So to them it is about protecting regular people but in this sense the regular people are the status quo people. This is why they’re successful. They have higher social intelligence. The left even describes this system without realizing it. The left are more diverse sub groups. Minority groups within the pop culture. So political the right are mostly always trying to maintain the social order while the left looks to disrupt it.
The right are blue jeans and bubble gum America. The left are multiple sub groups of minorities all trying to make their main status quo while the status quo people reject all these groups in order to maintain their status quo.
This is why Republicans do try to conserve. They fight to maintain the blue jeans bubble gum way while the left fight to change it.
This is a child’s level of understanding lol. Which is about where the conservatives are at these days
Big errors in your thinking.
First is thinking you’re going to win with an inflated sense of competency. Pretending like you’re above it all is going to mean failure.
The reason for that is because of your second failure in thinking that “they’re all conservatives”. They’re not. Just like I’m not liberal even though I’ll vote that way. So what are they?
They’re no less smarter or any more dumb then you or me. They have different values. Majority of them are not just conservative or Republican or even right wing. They’re just people mildly paying attention. So saying ‘you should know just google it’ missed the fact that this opinion will lose every ounce of power politically.
Why your line of reasoning fails is it shows how you’re not willing to accept that all those people really do respond to certain messages over others. The left fails at creating content and winning social victories which are the foundational blocks to winning the bigger victories. Stop acting like you’re too big brained to understand what every single person has known for centuries. Messages should be easy to understand and digest to maximize its reach.
Everybody keeps calling them stupid. They’re not. I would even bet on average they have a much greater understanding of current events than people on the left. This is because the right has more surface area and easier to digest content, slogans, media, efforts than the left. We all see these simple slogans and think what a stupid message. Meanwhile it still rallies them to create city crippling convoys where those idiots are still on bridges today. We keep confusing their messages and politics as stupid without realizing it’s really just purposely simple whereas we’re all regulated to corners of the internet with barely anything to spread expect comments like “welp those idiots sure did it again, they usurped power while we passively watch”.
If they’re winning victory after victory and usurping power then whose the real idiots
Sorry that happened to you or happy for you whichever applies but you couldn’t pay me to read your retarded shit
Thanks for proving my god damn point lol
That’s actually really funny you showed how right I am on this.
Also status quo and sub groups within society isn’t any mind blowing revelation. It’s just people fail to apply it to politics for some reason even though it explains so much of it.
If that was a fact then conservatives would have more empathy for the poor, for immigrants, for people in jail … for everyone who has less than they do.
But that’s not true, is it? Conservatives want money and power and they will beat the living shit out of anyone they can to get it.
You sound a lot like an anti-vaxxer, convoy supporter … so right up the Conservative’s alley.
Keep on keeping on, so that when they come for your job and home you won’t even see it coming.
That’s not what Conservatism is. The ideology is and always has been about opposing equality and enlightenment values. The only difference between conservatives and the alt-right is that they’re better at optics and lying.
It would suck right now to be a conservative with so much of world politics now being between centre left and radical right, with no simple conservative position left.
Unfortunately, before J.T., we had Stephen Harper. He was a conservative, Tory/Tories in Canada and other commonwealth countries.
Harper opened up some loopholes, and now a bunch of our news sources are owned by American VCs with close ties to the GOP…yaaaaay!
The left is busy washing their hair