There’s been plenty of discussion on defederation.
- https://sh.itjust.works/post/103490
- https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888
- https://sh.itjust.works/post/229169
- https://sh.itjust.works/post/151703
I propose we defederate no instance other than those with egregiously illegal content such as CP. Note that I know of no such instances.
As of the moment of this post, the only defederated instance is lemmygrad.ml, so voting Yea would refederate them. It’s a genocide-denying Marxist instance.
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When exploding heads is federated but lemmygrad not something is wrong.
Agreed, hence this (apparently super mega unpopular) vote.
Nay, quite simply EH, Grad, and (currently voting) Hexbear are not moderating to a standard required by the rules of this instance.
Also IIRC this [Vote] post will not count, start a [Discussion] instead. (Check the “Changes to the Agora” post).
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I see the argument for defederating from instances with no active administration because they could start hosting egregiously illegal content at any time without recourse. And after going through the initial Hexbear wave I am for defederating instances with a strong trolling and brigading culture until we can allowlist on an individual basis. (This sounds rather like Beehaw, doesn’t it?)
Abstain. For one: Let everyone for themselves decide what they want to see or what they don’t want to see. We’re grown-up and don’t need to tell other people what they should not or are not supposed to see.
(Just today there is a the_donald community sprouting on our instance. Should we allow that but defederate others?)
But the actual reason: let’s first agree on guidelines when to defederate and then measure them against these.
Nay.
“Everything that is legal” sounds good in theory, but isn’t great in practice. Holding instances to some reasonable minimum threshold is important to foster a community. We shouldn’t set that bar too low (or too high).
“Everything that is legal” sounds good in theory, but isn’t great in practice
I have yet to see any reason to agree with this
Setting up an instance that is nothing but a bot farm that spams communities is “legal”.
So ban spam accounts and don’t fucking make it difficult for everyone else to rose other instances, especially those that aren’t even spam.
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Nay
While I do believe that defederation should be reserved for very serious cases, I don’t think it needs to go as far as “egregiously illegal” before we consider it.
And to Lemmygrad specifically, they’re the perfect example of why. They may not be the worst filth on the internet, but their reputation as a hive of tankies is casting a bad light on the entirety of Lemmy. Anybody connected to them is going to appear guilty by association, so defederation is a symbolic gesture as much as anything else.
Nay.
Yay. Miss my late stage capitalism.
Nay
Nay
Nay.
Is this two different proposals in one, though?
nay
