If you’re extremely far-left. It’s worse there than here with the political drivel dominating every single non-political topic. I still use it on occasion but just like here, I’m going to have to filter out 90% of their subs because it’s all noise, probably going to be this way permanently until more neutral sites take the place of these shitholes.
Besides the “extremely far-left” (???) i do agree there can be a lot of US political posts.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m not encouraging “centrism”, but as a non american i see way too many posts about it, even when completely unrelated to the community.
It makes the experience worse for non-americans and casual users. I even had a friend quit lemmy because of this.
The Fediverse (and FOSS in general) is inherently (radically) political simply by the nature of it’s construction and organization. That said I think it’s important to stress to new users that one’s experience can be curated to the degree that normal social media cannot.
Until someone open-sources TikToks algorithm, the Fediverse cannot compete on entertainment value, what it competes on is quality and intentionality. I think it’s important we put that talking point front and center. We don’t need to convince the users who just want to scroll memes (even though this post is literall r/memes haha).
I have the exact same filters running. There’s enough content about them falling through the cracks by not mentioning them by name that I don’t even feel like I’m missing anything, I’m just slightly more sane now.
This makes me think of a Reddit thread about how annoying it is to be constantly surrounded by US topics as a non-American on Reddit. Half the comments were ‘you’re on an American site! You’re so entitled! What the hell are you expecting?’
If I understand correctly, lemmy.world is the largest Lemmy instance and is registered in the Netherlands, so what’s the excuse now?
But to temper my words a bit, I get we have a big American user base. I’d just like them to not treat Lemmy as an American community.
This makes me think of a Reddit thread about how annoying it is to be constantly surrounded by US topics as a non-American on Reddit
It really is. I’m not european either, but at least i don’t see it as much as US news.
You won’t believe this: I’ve seen people argue that since most of lemmy is from the US (no claims to back this up) apparently we’re all from the US, lol.
You can’t call this type of behavior out either, since you’ll just be downvoted to hell, too. :/ Also, some great defaultism such as “our country” “the party” which i see all the time.
I don’t hate americans, i just don’t like how a lot of them think they’re the center of the world.
imo centrists shouldn’t be shocked that the people literally working and laboring to go against censorship (all of the human hours gone into specs, implementations, community building etc etc) because of their radical views fosters those with similar views. Both left and right mind you. Member voat? How many of them you think are on those popular right wing fediverse networks I won’t name? I’m one of those extreme leftists (I just go by anarchist or socialist), but I remember when Reddit was banning right wing subreddits and was met with cheers by liberals.
Like it or not, far left and right are here in the fediverse and won’t leave because they are the ones who it’s built by and for, for better or worse. If we want the fediverse to succeed, it needs quality moderation/safety/anti-spam tools and protocols so people can filter out the stuff they deem uninterested in or something somehow equivalent.
This is the Wild West era right now. If the fediverse can survive for a decade, it might go the way of Blender and Godot, with a publicly accountable non profit foundation and all etc. Or it might go the way of gopher.
So do i, but i miss hobby and niche content on lemmy. The posts/communities that get the most activity are news and politics (even in unrelated communities)
I think both have a good place on lemmy, but i just want people to keep everything in its place.
I’m American and I’ve completely blocked many political words because that was all of the posts I was seeing. Turns out that is the majority of the posts and lemmy really doesn’t have much besides politics on it
Besides the “extremely far-left” (???) i do agree there can be a lot of US political posts.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m not encouraging “centrism”, but as a non american i see way too many posts about it, even when completely unrelated to the community.
It makes the experience worse for non-americans and casual users. I even had a friend quit lemmy because of this.
The Fediverse (and FOSS in general) is inherently (radically) political simply by the nature of it’s construction and organization. That said I think it’s important to stress to new users that one’s experience can be curated to the degree that normal social media cannot.
Until someone open-sources TikToks algorithm, the Fediverse cannot compete on entertainment value, what it competes on is quality and intentionality. I think it’s important we put that talking point front and center. We don’t need to convince the users who just want to scroll memes (even though this post is literall r/memes haha).
I think even US citizens are tired of it at this point. Small shout-out to !AskUSA@discuss.online
We are. That’s why I filter anything containing Trump/Elon etc… in piefed.
I wish americans at the least would mark their posts with [USpol] so we could filter it out. I also wish lemmy would have keyword filters 🥲
Keyword filters are work in progress: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/5263
Damn, nice. I see you’re all working hard on it, GL and thanks!
Niiice
I believe there might be filters on some cell apps specifically for Lemmy? Maybe someone else can chime in.
I have the exact same filters running. There’s enough content about them falling through the cracks by not mentioning them by name that I don’t even feel like I’m missing anything, I’m just slightly more sane now.
It works 80osh percent which is good enough. It’s hard for a platform to deal with total blackout if people don’t bother to alt text images.
You can also do this with voyager, for those on mobile.
This makes me think of a Reddit thread about how annoying it is to be constantly surrounded by US topics as a non-American on Reddit. Half the comments were ‘you’re on an American site! You’re so entitled! What the hell are you expecting?’
If I understand correctly, lemmy.world is the largest Lemmy instance and is registered in the Netherlands, so what’s the excuse now?
But to temper my words a bit, I get we have a big American user base. I’d just like them to not treat Lemmy as an American community.
It really is. I’m not european either, but at least i don’t see it as much as US news.
You won’t believe this: I’ve seen people argue that since most of lemmy is from the US (no claims to back this up) apparently we’re all from the US, lol.
You can’t call this type of behavior out either, since you’ll just be downvoted to hell, too. :/ Also, some great defaultism such as “our country” “the party” which i see all the time.
I don’t hate americans, i just don’t like how a lot of them think they’re the center of the world.
There’s none. !politics@lemmy.world being restricted to US politics while being on LW still seems weird to me, but I have bigger fish to fry.
imo centrists shouldn’t be shocked that the people literally working and laboring to go against censorship (all of the human hours gone into specs, implementations, community building etc etc) because of their radical views fosters those with similar views. Both left and right mind you. Member voat? How many of them you think are on those popular right wing fediverse networks I won’t name? I’m one of those extreme leftists (I just go by anarchist or socialist), but I remember when Reddit was banning right wing subreddits and was met with cheers by liberals.
Like it or not, far left and right are here in the fediverse and won’t leave because they are the ones who it’s built by and for, for better or worse. If we want the fediverse to succeed, it needs quality moderation/safety/anti-spam tools and protocols so people can filter out the stuff they deem uninterested in or something somehow equivalent.
This is the Wild West era right now. If the fediverse can survive for a decade, it might go the way of Blender and Godot, with a publicly accountable non profit foundation and all etc. Or it might go the way of gopher.
So do i, but i miss hobby and niche content on lemmy. The posts/communities that get the most activity are news and politics (even in unrelated communities)
I think both have a good place on lemmy, but i just want people to keep everything in its place.
I’m American and I’ve completely blocked many political words because that was all of the posts I was seeing. Turns out that is the majority of the posts and lemmy really doesn’t have much besides politics on it
I think it’s relatively easy to filter out most political threads by having a curated community subscription list and only viewing by “subscribed”.
Occasionally some stuff will go through, but it’s not that big of a deal.