The Lemmy experience - eviltoast
  • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Why do you find it shocking that someone wants their political goals to be achieved but is also realistic with themselves that they may never see them accomplished?

    • CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      If you accept that your goals cannot be accomplished, why maintain them as goals? If you know it is futile, why bother? It is literally a waste of time at that point.

      That said, I personally dont think it is futile. I think it mostly is an attainable goal, minus the withering of the state; I don’t think we could reach a point where the state is completely unnecessary, so I advocate Socialism. I just also think it is ridiculous that someone would try and claim something is futile while simultaneously advocating that everyone adhere to that thing. Their philosophy states clearly attainable, objective goals. If they think it is unrealistic for anyone to ever achieve those goals, then they don’t believe in their own philosophy. That is textbook cognitive dissonance.

      • 31337@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        Communism is very utopian and it is not well defined about how it would work in a practical or thoeretical sense (AFAIK). It is something to aspire to. Something to guide your path. One day, something like it may be achieved, but will take a long time to get there. Like, say, carbon neutrality, the “pursuit of happiness,” the elimination of world hunger, to be like Jesus and to not sin, to have pyramids built, etc. It’s a fairly common concept.

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        1 year ago

        That’s not cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is the feeling of discomfort one may feel when holding contradictory beliefs and forced to reconcile the two.

        Edit: spelling