200,000 march against far right in Munich - eviltoast

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Over 200,000 people marched in Munich against the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, with organizers claiming 320,000 participants.

The protests, held under the slogan “democracy needs you,” warned against any party collaborating with the AfD, particularly the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), ahead of legislative elections.

    • barsoap@lemm.ee
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      2 days ago

      No you don’t. It’s high but 30% is not a majority, also, that’s 30% of people who work, not of those who could show up at a protest. Students, kids, non-working spouses, pensioners, etc, where’s them.

      • Dadd Volante@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        I can’t give you one solid answer because it’s a situation that has nuance.

        Not everyone owns a car. Not everyone is educated well enough. Many times people are exhausted by the time they have a day off.

        I’m not letting my KIDS put themselves in danger. That’s insane.

        But okay. This is a black and white issue with easy, simple answers. Like most issues are.

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          You are simply making excuses. There are sacrifices to peoples time and energy to attend a protest, that is true. They may even be a bit higher in the US.

          This big problem is culture. North Americans lack the culture of protest. We’re all too wrapped up in our lives with little thought for the collective at large. We live in urban sprawls where we feel disconnected. We need to get together to change this culture or we’re going to get trampled.

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              22 hours ago

              It’s not that they’ve better when I say them, it’s that they’re true but ultimately unimportant.

              I’m not refuting its harder to protest in the US, but I am saying that it needs to be done regardless. It’s unfortunately not fair, but it is what it is.

              If westerners don’t learn to overcome the obstacles in place and organize then we’re done for.

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                4 hours ago

                You told me “I’m simply making excuses”, when all I’m doing is trying to do is bring nuance to the conversation. Something people have a severe problem with. They’d rather win an argument than have an actual discussion.

                There ARE protests happening all over this country. Get off your butt. I was in Louisville last Saturday at one. There’s also a KKK rally that’s we’re heading out to counter protest. You want the details I’ll be glad to share em

                But you’ll have to find a way there. And you’ll have to have the day off. Depending on where you live you may need two or three since our country spans from one ocean to another.

                There’s so many points people keep making without even taking into consideration the huge differences between the US and Germany.

                Germany is small. Takes nothing to hop a train a wait a couple hours to protest. You think everyone there lives in town? Of course not. They’re using their much superior infrastructure and education to get there. Really easy to get a large mass of like minded people when you aren’t spread out across an entire continent.

                You think being educated is unimportant? That not having public transportation or the ability to take more than one day off is unimportant? Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

                Yeah, we need to wake up a huge swath of the population. No one is arguing that. The entire point (that keeps getting missed) is that we, as a people, have a lot more obstacles to overcome in order to see the results we want.

                But nooooooope. Y’all have decided easy answers to nuanced situations are definitely the way to go here.

                This is day three of people trying to convince me of a black and white answer and I’m not wasting another second on this conversation.

                If you want to join the Klan counter protest hit my dms.

                I would implore y’all to practice what you preach instead of complaining that others need to do something. Be the change. Cause that’s the biggest problem we face right now, the idea that someone else is going to help us.

                Have a good day.