If the internet went away indefinitely, what things would you wish you had downloaded before it happened? - eviltoast

For me it would be a full copy of wikipedia, an offline copy of some maps of where I live, some linux ISO’s, and a lot of entertainment media.

  • VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    111·
    2 days ago

    Wikipedia would be the most valuable thing if I had to pick one, I guess.

    An maybe the “your jimmies are eternal video” in case I need to unrustle my jimmie ever again.

  • balsoft@lemmy.ml
    6·
    2 days ago

    Honestly, I think I’m mostly set already (as I often go backpacking and there’s no internet there). I have offline maps for the country I’m in and neighboring regions downloaded in OsmAnd and mapy.cz (two sources just in case), Wikipedia in Kiwix, and my custom NixOS setup as a bootable ISO on a flashdrive. I’ll probably miss being able to watch science/maths edutainment on YouTube, but it’s not something I’d download.

  • matto@lemm.ee
    51·
    3 days ago

    A full copy of Stack Overflow. Otherwise, we would not know how to get the Internet working again.

  • ewigkaiwelo@lemmy.world
    56·
    4 days ago

    If you’d download the whole wikipedia be sure to download the whole commets section for each article to have a perspective on discussions on conflicting reasons for edits. Also include all the wiki media materials for all of the public domain literature, project gutenberg, entire archive.org, a good offline OS to be able to consume all of the information and you’re golden

      • ewigkaiwelo@lemmy.world
        151·
        3 days ago

        You mean electricity bills for powering the storage? I guess buying 100pb worth of storage disks would be pretty expensive enough but since it’s an archive there is no need to keep it powered 24/7, just turn them on only when you need to. It’s just a hypothetical situation anyway, it’s a thing I wish to have access to; only an experienced sysadmin can actually maintain such great archive or its copy/backup

      • ralakus@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 days ago

        Let’s assume you have all hard drives and in a setup with absolutely zero redundancy in case a drive fails.

        We’re using the Seagate Exos X24 (24TB) drive which is roughly $700 each brand new.

        You’ll need 4167 of them to store 100PB. Which puts you at $2,916,900 just for the drives.

        Let’s assume you already have the enclosures, racks, and servers for a small datacenter ready to go.

        A drive can use 4-9w of power when spinning so assuming all drives are active (to ensure quick data access and data repair) that’ll be roughly 27086w for all the drives at 6.5w per drive. Every month (30 days), that is 19502kWh of electricity used. 40 years is roughly 349,680 hours so that comes out to around 9,471,433kWh used.

        Assuming you get some damn good electricity rates at $0.12USD per kWh, it’ll cost $1,136,572 to run just the drives.

        So in total, assuming you already have a datacenter with the capacity to install all the drives that runs on absolutely zero power, you’ll spend roughly $4,053,472 over the course of 40 years.

        • ralakus@lemmy.world
          8·
          3 days ago

          There is a much cheaper way that doesn’t use hard drives. It uses magnetic tapes, LTO-9 tapes specifically.

          Each LTO-9 tape cassette can hold up to 45TB of data (compression is used to store it on the raw 18TB).

          An LTO-9 tape drive can cost $10,000. Assuming you get the full 45TB per tape, you’ll need 2223 LTO-9 tape cassettes to store 100PB. Assuming you buy in bulk, you can get each tape cassette for $150 which puts you at $333,450 for the tapes.

          Since the tapes don’t use power when not in use, this concludes the total cost. None of this accounts for storing all 2223 tapes or maintenance to ensure data is still intact on them but this comes out to $343,450 in total to store 100PB using magnetic tapes. While the cost is much cheaper, it’s much harder to access the data as it’s not immediately available since you have to fish out the drive you need and plop it into the tape drive then wait for it to read.

      • Bilb!@lem.monsterEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        The arch linux wiki, where you will be instructed to install various dependencies from the AUR

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            1·
            2 days ago

            Depends on how up-to-date your install image is. If you downloaded the ISO 6 months ago, chances are, the build you downloaded is out of date (doubly so if it’s Arch). Most installers have an online option that will download the updates and install the newest version, but if you don’t have access to the internet, then all you have is the data included in the ISO that you got 6 months ago.

    • SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 days ago

      does that apply to the rest of Linux? I saw it in Kiwix but haven’t delved into it

      I did grab the ifixit zim though. pretty cool at only ~7gb