Mangione "really wanted to meet my other founding members and start a community based on ideas like rationalism, Stoicism, and effective altruism" - eviltoast
  • sc_griffith@awful.systems
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    8 days ago

    it’s definitely linked to rationalism (and various far right bullshits), which right away means people who get into it are likely to be at least cult adjacent. not the most stable spot to be in, psychologically

    tangent, as a callow youth I listened to rationally speaking, which used to be a cohosted show with julia galef and massimo pigluicci. mostly after leaving the show (I think?), pigluicci ended up getting really into stoicism and would post shit about how unhappiness is purely one’s own choice etc. when I asked him if jewish people in WWII concentration camps were just choosing to be unhappy he was like yes. so, yeah, that’s stoicism for you

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      7 days ago

      when I asked him if jewish people in WWII concentration camps were just choosing to be unhappy he was like yes

      oof.

      that whole strain of “it’s only in your mind” motherfuckers who just outright disregard varieties of concrete evidence… whether from biochemically-etc originated body- and being-related problems all the way through things like the example you gave… I’ve had to deal with a couple of them myself (my can of brainworms include some choice seasonal unfun things) and good god do I often want to boop them on the nose