Amish voters did not win Pennsylvania for Donald Trump - eviltoast

Jebus, stop trying to find a single group to blame, it’s the entire god damn American public that’s at fault.

White, Latino, Blacks, Asians, men, women, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, Republicans, Democrats, progressives, everyone in America knew who Trump and Republicans are and screwed the pooch and the entirety of America.

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          25 days ago

          We either are, or are not a country. If you absolve yourself of responsibility because you didn’t personally vote [for Trump] then there’s no impetus to make the country better. After all you’re just a passenger. You gave up your agency.

          Edit- I missed a couple words. I never meant to say they didn’t vote.

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            This is just some weird line of thought you came up with but it stands up to no scrutiny. Where it falls apart even more obviously is if you look at the more authoritarian governments around the world. Go ahead, blame those victims too and see how much sense it makes. But we don’t even have a democracy in the United States. The popular vote doesn’t matter as long as the gerrymandering worked as intended (which is often).

            The only way your logic would hold up at all is if there were some international program that let people move for free to another country if they didn’t like what was going on in theirs. Because that would never ever exist, and so much is beyond our control, it’s just braindead to pretend otherwise.

            Ps I voted and said so. Not sure why you’re saying I didn’t. My whole point is that we don’t get to victim blame those who did their part to stop this evil

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              26 days ago

              Oh you voted Harris so you’re a victim now? Nobody has any sympathy for the people who did nothing but vote in those autocratic regimes. And throwing away your own agency certainly doesn’t make you a victim. We’re all in this no matter who we voted for.

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        26 days ago

        Ah yes, right up there with marginalizing an entire group of people despite a lack of evidence. Oh, wait, it’s exactly that. 50% or less of American voters voted for Trump.

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          26 days ago

          Less than 50% out of those who voted. If we were looking at everyone eligible to vote it would be closer to 25%, for whatever that is worth. I blame people for not voting, that really pisses me off, but at the same time it’s getting harder and harder to blame people for losing hope of anything worth voting for. If trump can win, I feel like my vote is worth even less than it ever was.

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          26 days ago

          If we’re not all responsible then we don’t have any agency and it’s all over already. Nobody looks back at Germany and says, but what about the people who voted for the other parties?