Police discover 80 Russian torture chambers in Ukraine - eviltoast
  • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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    1 year ago

    Over Ukrainian territory. For defensive purposes. Where it was originally agreed for. Crimea hasn’t been Ukraine for years (even though it should be). Offensives into Russia were not part of any operational original deals.

    It’s not deactivating if it was never live there.

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      The individual base station (or whatever) has its service deactivated when it goes to Crimea, which is internationally recognized as Ukrainian territory.

      No one but Russian bootlickers think Crimea is part of Russia.

      • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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        Right. The individual base stations always have had a service region. It’s why I can’t use starlink over international waters and the same thing happens from a fishing boat or anything. There’s no purposeful deactivations. Just boundaries of service already established.

        It’s literally part of the service when you sign up.

        You’re right that technically he could provide coverage anywhere in the world. There’s lots of reasons he doesn’t. But that’s always been part of the service.

        18 UNcountries recognize it as Russian territory. Some of them large superpowers or economic hubs. Including one that’s expected to launch starlink soon. (Though all generally shitty countries.)

        But aside from that. The rules for supplying things to Ukraine were spelled out very clearly. It’s why none of the Western supplies hsve been used in Russian territory attacks. Doing so Russia claimed it would retaliate.

        The articles are claiming that he intentionally turned it off when it was originally on and that’s not the case. It was never active there.

        • tym@lemmy.world
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          Look if you want to play semantics, fine. The most finite definition is that starlink satellites deactivate every time they pass over Crimea. He actively contributes to russias strike capabilities on a daily basis. It’s far worse than the story, not better.

          Won’t matter when Ukraine creates their own capabilities, but fuck musk just the same.

          • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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            Musk is beholden to various international laws when providing this coverage. Like it or not Russia considers crimea their territory and would not respond kindly to musk allowing it’s use over their territory.

            Like I love how everyone just expects this dude to just as a civilian piss off a nation who can shoot his satellites down or consider it an act of war on his own.

        • uis@lemmy.world
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          18 UNcountries recognize it as Russian territory

          Russia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Cuba, Eritrea. What are rest of 12 countries?

          • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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            India , and several African and middle eastern countries. (iirc Iran was on there etc). By no means a real winner list but just worth noting.

            In particular India which starlink is set to go active in very soon.

      • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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        Yes. However Russia has claimed it years before this conflict and threatened retaliation if westerners interfere. It’s why all of the supplies we give are only used in Ukraine. The attacks on Russian soil are not with Western supplies intentionally and this would be no different.

        • uis@lemmy.world
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          However Russia has claimed it years before this conflict

          No, it claimed when conflict started. Just before February Putin didn’t go any further.

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              1 year ago

              This is correct. Statement that Crimea was annexed before conflict started is incorrect.

              • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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                1 year ago

                Maybe I’m misunderstanding please correct me. Crimea was annexed by Russia in 2014 no? The current crisis started much later than that no? (Even though technically many consider them connected for obvious reasons.)

                • uis@lemmy.world
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                  The current crisis started much later than that no?

                  No, crisis wasn’t ended, it was paused.