these folks sure are quiet these days - eviltoast

i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

  • Moneo@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I appreciate the level headed take.

    Because we can’t save Gaza immediately

    What do you mean by this? That the president can’t or that voters can’t because their choice is voting genocide or worse genocide?

    The dems have been taught a lesson

    Based on the response of the media, and elected democrats, no they haven’t lol. They’re blaming the left.

    but their conscious is clear, somehow

    I think this is reductive and does not acknowledge why many people did not vote democrat.

    • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
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      What do you mean by this? That the president can’t or that voters can’t because their choice is voting genocide or worse genocide?

      In my opinion, the genocide was not anywhere on the ballet. There was no feasible choice. I don’t think we had a choice to save Gaza immediately on 11/5. I’d rather fight for people in our regular shit then have to fight for people in whatever hell Trump is planning.

      Based on the response of the media, and elected democrats, no they haven’t lol. They’re blaming the left.

      Maybe we’re not seeing the same articles? Don’t get me wrong, I do see people blaming leftist/liberals/Russian bots, etc. But the I’ve seen posts and articles about how the dems fail the working class and looking over why they were abandoned. Sanders has been very vocal about the dems failure, and he’s not the only one. Not saying there’s no blame on the campaign, I’ve just seen both 🤷🏿‍♀️

      I think this is reductive and does not acknowledge why many people did not vote democrat.

      I don’t think so. I didn’t see this election as “dems VS rep.” I saw this as a vote to stop facisim. There was no vote I could make that day that was going to stop the genocide in it’s tracks. I didn’t believe that not voting was going to make anything easier. I see tons of, “Well, what will your compromise on? How many people can be killed before you say enough is enough?” I don’t feel like I compromised, because that makes it seem like I had a say, at least by 11/5. I wasn’t like, “okay, I’ll allow genocide if they keep abortion rights.” It was, “One person is asking for a ceasefire, but not making a clear statement against the genocide and continues to say she’ll continue what Biden is doing,” and “One person has told me he will give Israel the okay to turn Gaza into a crater, as well as make any future progress or change exponentially more difficult, and will harm anyone he doesn’t like.” Why would I pick the latter? The kid who can’t afford lunch didn’t put me in this position, nor did the teenager bleeding in the parking lot. It feels like they were so focused on teaching the Dems a lesson that they forgot the consequences won’t affect the politicians, it’ll affect us. All of us, whether we like it or not.

      I feel more helpless about Gaza then I did before the election. The recent meetings in my area have been down right depressing because we know it’s just going to be so much harder. And it’s upsetting that it feels like it didn’t have to.